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« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2011, 10:53:00 PM »
But what do I know... maybe the next funny sitcom will be set in an abortion clinic ::)

That's a bit strong! Not what I mean at all. Look, The Full Monty was a funny film about people making the best of being made redundant. It was set against the very real backdrop of Sheffield losing its industry and degrading, exactly the same situation as you describe and one that the city suburbs suffers for to this day. That film was very funny and much loved, but are you saying you would point blank refuse to watch it because redundancy and the collapse of an industry is never funny? Would you refuse to watch Billy Elliot or Brassed Off for the same reasons?

You're acting like a TV show is automatically excusing or even promoting it. That's like saying Dad's Army supported the second world war!  :shrug:

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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2011, 01:20:34 AM »
Never watch one of the films you said... in fact I don't have a clue of what they are :shrug:

For me some things aren't funny... turning depressing real event as laughing stock is just cover up their real effects.

Why not doing a funny sitcom about the disparition of the forest industry in my region? It would be funny... who care if half of the population is not working anymore or are force to take low wage jobs is they want to support their familly. Why not have a fifty five years old central character who loose his job and is force to watch the collapsing of the small truck company he have built in the last 25 years because of that? Even funnier make him go on bankruptcy and loose everything he had worked for since he had start working at 16 years old....

Sound incredibly funny to me... too bad the guy is someone I know quite well.

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« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2011, 02:33:43 AM »
We're just going round in circles. Yes, what has happened to your friend is horrendous. For anyone to lose their job because their industry was taken out from beneath them is awful and the humiliation of being out of work when you worked so hard is not at all funny.

I'm going to try once more to explain what I mean, because I know you take this seriously, and so do I. The gravity if the situations is not lost on me.

The Full Monty is a popular British film comedy/drama, about a group of workers from a steel works in Sheffield which has been closed down leaving them unemployed. To put this in real context, Sheffield was known as the City of Steel and "Sheffield Steel" was a worldwide brand. The city was built on it and when the industry died because of political decisions, the impact was massive. The North of England was all industrial and towns were built around their factories. Without the industry, the towns die. It's that simple and that sad. So why would anyone want to watch a comedy set there? Because the story of how some might try and overcome that adversity is uplifting. And in this film, bloody funny. (The out of work men decide to form an unlikely stripper group for no other reason than to give themselves something to do).

This scene epitomises the story. They've been training so hard for the dance show that they unconsciously dance in the dole queue, in time with each other, to the bemusement of others (I can only find it in Italian, but there's no dialogue anyway!):



The trailer is below. But can't you see what I'm getting at? In reality, those men would be on the dole with absolutely no chance of ever regaining a job worth their ability. Standing in that queue, waiting for a handout would be soul destroying. They are on life's scrapheap. But, they're dancing! And it's funny!



You can say the same thing about Billy Elliot. It's about a kid who wants to be a ballet dancer, but he lives in a mining town. Just as towns relied on factories, so they did on mines, the closing of which caused the famous strike in the 70s and later another in the 80s, the repercussions of which are felt today. There were picket lines of striking miners and when one broke the line to return to work, he would be known as a Scab and ostracised. There was a lot of violence, especially in riots, and people were killed, passions ran so high. The country was literally, no exaggeration, crippled (other industries went on strike in sympathy, causing black outs). In Billy Elliot, his dad finally realises his sons talent and decides he absolutely has to send him to a dance school, but for that he needs money. So he breaks the picket line and returns to work.



That is a serious thing to do, yet it's in a film about a kid who dances. Don't you see that these stories work because they're about the characters making the best of it? That's all I mean and I've spent far too much time trying to defend a sitcom that was crap anyway!  :laugh: It was cancelled because it was rubbish, not because it was insensitive.

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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2011, 02:46:13 AM »
I loved the Full Monty and really want to see it again. Thanks for the reminder Jon.

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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2011, 11:08:05 PM »
The next shows on death row:

$#*! My Dad Says
The Defenders
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2011, 11:46:57 PM »
I also read that Mad Love was canceled as well.

So many of the shows I watch are getting canceled this season!  :weep:
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« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2011, 12:16:55 AM »
$#*! My Dad Says wasn't that bad...I've been liking Mad Love.
I really don't get networks sometimes.

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« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2011, 12:27:14 AM »
The problem is probably that most of those show had low view rating. Not that people not watch them, but they don't watch them live and record them. As you are not force to watch the commercial when a show is recorded those one aren't profitable for the network because the price paid for a publicity spot is lower.

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« Reply #38 on: May 16, 2011, 12:32:41 AM »
I had heard Mad Love was going to be canceled...I really like Sarah Chalke who was in it.  I guess I'll have to watch for her next project now.  I also had been watching (Bleep) My Dad Says (AKA: The Guy In The Fishing Vest) which I thought had a bad pilot but improved somewhat after that.  So with news of those being canceled as well as Better With You and the no-go for Wonder Woman, this has not been my last couple of days...  :thumbdown:

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« Reply #39 on: May 16, 2011, 01:03:40 AM »
The problem is probably that most of those show had low view rating. Not that people not watch them, but they don't watch them live and record them. As you are not force to watch the commercial when a show is recorded those one aren't profitable for the network because the price paid for a publicity spot is lower.

That's true..I forgot about that.  I know I watch more stuff later from my DVR.

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« Reply #40 on: May 16, 2011, 01:58:47 PM »
Lost these from my TV planner so far;
Human Target
Lie to Me
The Chicago Code
V
The Event

Really disappointed about losing The EVent, really liking this as a replacement for FlashForward, which was a nice replacement for LOST when that started being abit crap.
The Chicago Code only started up over here last week, but I liked the first episode.
Will V have a chance to wrap up or is it gone already?
Any news on Hawaii 5-0? Hopefully that's still with us.


The next shows on death row:

$#*! My Dad Says
The Defenders

Are these definatley gone?
I've been watching The Defenders, but can't decide whether I like it or if it's just okay until Dexter comes back.

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« Reply #41 on: May 16, 2011, 08:11:38 PM »
I think V is done..and I think I remember reading a story about how the last show was filmed before they had any idea if the show would be renewed..and I think the article said it has a cliffhanger ending.  I really hate when that happens.

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« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2011, 11:05:36 PM »
RIP

Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior
Hellcats

and Lisa Edelstein (Cuddy) won't return for the 8th season of House M.D.
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« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2011, 11:15:04 PM »
There's an interview with Hugh Laurie in Radio Times this week. There's an implication this 8th season will be the last. I don't watch it myself, so I'm not sure how much people already think that's the case, so I thought it worth mentioning.

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« Reply #44 on: May 17, 2011, 11:15:40 PM »
I watched Hellcats... which was ok. But I am really not that surprised it didn't make it.
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