Topic: Odd combination for a double-feature.

[snowcat]

Ok firstly I think you are all taking Emmas comments too seriously....

exactly, whilst I can admit Citizen Kane has its artistic merits, I did not enjoy it.... I think thats because I dont like Wells directing style.... Orson Wells uses long takes, Long takes disengage an audience.... have you seen The Magnificent Ambersons? there is a shot in that where one chacracter is at a table eating whilst his aunt is there... someone comes in and makes fun of her she runs from the scene crying and the camera stays on this guy eating pie or whatever... I don't like this, I like the hitchcock style... fast cuts all the way!

Anyway *shifts topic back on topic*

[Najemikon]

Orson Wells uses long takes, Long takes disengage an audience....

 

Yeah, Scorcese has had real trouble with this too. And the Kurosawa guy has sturggled. If only they'd seen MTV!  It's about what editing suits the story. Hitch predominantly did thrillers, Welles did dramas. Quick cuts wouldn't have worked, so you can't compare them like that.

I'm not saying you should like Welles, or whatever. Just that there's no point blaming technique when it's all about sum of its parts.

[Antares]

Long takes disengage an audience....

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[snowcat]

...This is an age old argument that I think I tired out during my review which I will probably re-work at some point, I also think this thread is the wrong place for it :p But, let me just make my statement a little clearer so you get what I mean.

I used an example because I couldn't think of anything specific from Kane because it just hasnt stuck in my head. Orson Wells took long takes to a new level, I will bring the example I used forward again, I wanted to know what happened to the woman who ran off crying, a critic once said of that scene "Its like being helplessly stuck to an arm chair" and I agree, I don't want to watch these guys I want to make sure the other character was ok....

Anyway. ;p Thats all I have to say on that one.

[Najemikon]

I know what you mean, but it's unfair of you to use The Magnificent Ambersons, because it wasn't finished! It was hacked to pieces by the studio and a lot was even re-filmed while Welles was on a wild goose chase in Mexico. There was probably supposed to be a dozen cover shots for the scene you quote. I could never get into the film and found it a mess that wasn't worth the effort. I think some critics keep going on about it because of nostalgia. It could have been great, but I think, move on. It's a dead project and not truly representative of what Welles could do. Take a look at Touch of Evil instead.

[Antares]

As Jon has stated, The Magnificent Ambersons is a poor choice to bolster your argument.

If you are going to generalize a motif, you really need more to back it up.

I think that you would change that statement if you ever watched a Kurosawa film. His use of long takes created tone and mood for his films. There is one scene in Red Beard, where the young doctor is in his room and the psychotic female patient known as the Mantis enters. In one long take, Kurosawa shows both of them at opposite ends of the 2.35:1 widescreen frame. As each start to move closer, the camera slowly zooms in, each person engaging each other and sizing the other up. Finally, the Mantis, through her seduction has the young doctor in a fatally compromising position. The beauty of this shot is the fact that not for a moment do you sense the camera moving in on the action. But, you are drawn into the seduction by the seamless nature of Kurosawa's camera work. If this had been done with jump cuts, the seduction would appear feeble, or even comical.

[northbloke]

Used to often do daft double features with the ex. She would choose something like Notting Hill and then I would choose something like Cannibal Holocaust

No wonder she is your ex! 

Completely agree - I mean who in their right mind would make their partner watch Notting Hill! 

[Tom]

I love Notting Hill 

[addicted2dvd]

Back when my wife was still with us we always watched double features. One her choice and the other my choice.  I think the weirdest combination we had was probably Grease for her (torture for me... but what you will do for the chance to have sex!)  and Near Dark for me.

[kahless]

I love Notting Hill 

Never seen this movie. Should it be on my wishlist? I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of Hugh Grant.  

[snowcat]

I quite like Notting Hill, its an ok film, not the best but could be worse :p if you find it cheap get it

[kahless]

I quite like Notting Hill, its an ok film, not the best but could be worse :p if you find it cheap get it

Thanks - I suppose I'll do that! 

[Tom]

I love Notting Hill 

Never seen this movie. Should it be on my wishlist? I have to admit that I'm not a big fan of Hugh Grant.  

I think so. It's a good romantic comedy. Average guy meets movie star. One of my favorite scenes is, when he takes her along to his sister's birthday party (family setting) and didn't tell his family that he is bringing along a famous movie star. Also the supporting cast is fun. Like his colleague or his flatmate.

[addicted2dvd]

I couldn't handle Notting Hill... but then I always hated Hugh Grant.

[snowcat]

...Im not a big fan of him, except in About a Boy.... There is just something about him in that film