Topic: Bones

[Dragonfire]

The episode is on my DVR...I saw some of it.... Right now I have no interest to watch all of it...or all of the last episode from last season.  They ticked me off so bad I just don't care anymore.

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I've read a few things within the last month or so that says there is going to be a wedding between Booth and Bones...and it will be soon...most likely in November.  Which completely contradicts what the one idiot said in an interview the day after the final episode of last season aired when he went on about things with Pelante - I loath that character.  Absolutely loath him...more than He who shall not be named   Anyway, the idiot with the show said that stuff with Pelante wasn't going to end anytime soon...the writers just love that character..blah blah...  Now that it seems like a wedding is approaching - and the creator has said it is an real, actual wedding and not some sort of fake out - I am wondering if they ....changed their plans for the season after seeing how ticked off the longtime fans were with that final episode.  I saw people posting that night about it and no one was happy.

[Piffi]

Well, i do agree with you Marie about the spoilers there.. And i think some character might be killed off earlier than first expected.

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And just give this episode a chance. Something happens at the end between B&B. Somewhat confusing aswell. With that ending, it makes it more intersting IMHO.

[Dragonfire]

I saw the end of the episode.

[Piffi]

Oh, ok.. My bad then. And your still not sold eh?

[Dragonfire]

That's ok.

Not yet.  I guess I feel like they have set it up like certain things were going to happen before, only to not do it or do a completely 180 within a couple of minutes.  Like in the 100th episode.  The writers and creator  - maybe even the cast - talked that up ahead of time about how the fans were going to finally get what they wanted between them.  So I watch.  He shares his feelings...she isn't ready basically.  Frustrating, but ok..it was established that she had issues.  Then he immediately is saying he isn't going to wait for her.  He's going to find someone else and get married.  That was like a slap in the face.  I've been...wary I guess since then.  Well, really, probably back since they broke up Angela and Hodgins for no reason.  Then even after they finally get together, they have to go and invent stupid stuff to drive them apart again..and Pelante is involved in it both times.  Enough is enough.  Stop trying to create drama by causing problems between them..let them be happy and let the drama come from the murder investigations.

[Piffi]

I have to start of here too by saying. I'm a bit torn about 'Bones' lately. (and i see you dont like the 100th ep any.) i gotta be honest. I dont remember it. Wich episode, in wich season? (thanks!) And i said it before season 9 started, i think this will be the last season of Bones. (unfortunatly) and i still do! And thats sad. Season 1-6 (epic) in that time, one of my favorite shows! But after season 8, and now season 9 ep 1. I'm interested in checking out this season. See how they will turn things around. Its going to be a interesting fall iguess.

[Dragonfire]

I don't remember exactly when the 100th episode was.  Let me think here.  I have to work backward.  Season 9 just started...they were together in 8...they were together in 7...so we found out at the very end of 6...so it was in season 5.  I'm thinking it was later in the season.  I have no idea what the episode title was or even what the case for the episode was.  I don't remember there being many episodes after that one..though I only sort of watched after that point and I never did watch the last episode of that season.  The only good thing that happened was they finally fixed the mess they created with Angela and Hodgins. 

I did hear things before about this being the last season...but then I also read where the creator was talking about the show going on, so who knows. 

I know they haven't broken up...but this nonsense with Booth backing out of the engagement is just causing unnecessary drama and everyone is ticked off.  She already has issues about relationships..so they finally get her to the point where she wants to get married, then rip it away from her.  Booth clearly isn't happy.  Angela is pissed at Booth and jumping down his throat about ending the engagement.  All that is just unnecessary and stupid.  It doesn't add anything to the show for me and I don't find watching that crap entertaining.  So.  I'm wary about continuing to watch the show.  And I started watching with the very first episode 9 years ago...and I followed it while it bounced all around the schedule.  I guess the writers have ticked me off one time too many.

[Piffi]

Well, i gotcha. And i agree with some of the stuff you said. Both with Angie and Hodge. Why? And we all know Bones and her issues with everything. And NOW finally after 8-9 years she's finally opening up etc. BUT -we- know why Booth did what he did. And when everything comes to end with this storyline. I'm pretty sure Bones will know the whole thing. And know the reason we know. (Thats what i'm hoping for) If not, i dont see the point. And hope that -you know who- is finished before the season is halfway trough. A few things that makes this interesting. But the show cant drag this storyline out. They done it long enough. And as long as we are tuning in to check it out. They will be on. But i still think this is the last of them. But i have to give it to them. 9 seasons is a great run. Even better then House. I'll guess we just have to see what happens.

[Dragonfire]

I know that we know why Booth did it.  That isn't making it better for me.  It has still screwed up things for no real purpose other than to let Pelante be an unstoppable bad guy who can do anything.  Booth is basically his puppet now.  That is not right.  I think this stupid story has already been going on too long as it is.  I'm just...waiting to see for the most part I guess.

[Piffi]

It has still screwed up things for no real purpose other than to let Pelante be an unstoppable bad guy who can do anything. <- Well. I have to ask you this. -No real- purpose.. Well, we all know what happens if he didnt do as he said. And thats not a good thing either. And then we can discuss why Hart Hanson & co did that to begin with. Do i like this storyline? Not all! Should they kill it of ASAP? Yes, i think so. But i just hope with how they are building things up now. That we get the payoff that we the fans so richly deserve! And they still got people to tune in. BUT let me just say this, if this will go on for the whole season. They might lose me as a loyal watcher. For me, they have screwed so many things up. And most of it started with HOW they put B&B together. They screwed us big time.

[Dragonfire]

I meant there was no real reason to have Pelante make that threat to begin with.  They have just made me this ...super villain who can do anything to screw with all of them.  It was already ridiculous when he somehow managed to drain all of Hodgins's accounts.  They created an unstoppable jerk with a grudge who now wants to devote his time to getting revenge on Booth and Bones because they suspected him of bypassing his tracking anklet to commit a murder.  No one else seems to care that the jerk was originally arrested for being a major computer hacker, and that got dismissed around the time when she was framed for murder.  It is just all stupid.  The writers think they have to keep threatening the end of their relationship in some way - Bones going on the run with Christine for months..sending messages to Angela but not Booth..now Pelante butting in again to make Booth end the engagement and causing all sorts of unnecessary tension between them. 

I've read several things from writers and producers of the show about how they have to be so careful to avoid the Moonlighting curse.  I am so sick of writers using that as an excuse..and that's all it is, an excuse for writers who don't know how to write a relationship that works.  And for the record, in Moonlighting, they really didn't have a romantic relationship.  The writers never let them have any semblance of a regular relationship.  They got together one night, spent an episode or 2 having stupid fights before jumping each other and that was it.  It didn't help that there were outside issues going on at the time too - Cybil Shepard's real life pregnancy caused health issues, and evidently there were problems between her and Willis.  I had watched Moonlight from the beginning, and I was so ticked with what was done once they did get together.  I barely watched after that...then her character ended up married to someone else and pregnant..the audience was told David was the father..and then she lost the baby.  What the hell.  That was the last straw for me with that show.  I do not think that it automatically ruins a show when 2 characters get together.  Bad writing ruins shows.  I think Castle has done a good job with Rick and Kate - though I do think they tossed in extra crap that didn't need to be there near the end of last season..trying to set up the cliffhanger again.  They need to knock that off.  Let them have a case that isn't resolved by the end of the episode or someone maybe injured or something as a cliffhanger..not the relationship in danger. 

I have some issues with how Booth and Bones got together and the audience is just presented it after the fact.  However, once they got into the next season when they were together, I thought most of that worked well.  I liked seeing them together and how they were adjusting to things, though I think they have kept her to clueless about certain things.  But overall, I'm ok with it.  I have not liked anything about Pelante since the first time he showed up.  He a smug, cocky little jerk that the writers have made invincible.  They set him up that he can do anything and get away with it.  To me, that is bad and lazy writing.  I find nothing compelling or interesting about the character and he is ruining the show.

[Piffi]

Well, when it comes to Pelante i do agree with what you say, and thats how Hanson & co build his character to be aswell, this smug cocky son of a bitch. That goes many people on the nerve. And hey, look what he does to our DD! And the rest of the crew. Thats why i hope we'll get a decent payoff, when he's all done. And written out of the show. If not, i dont know anymore.. And when it comes to Booth and Bones getting together, i got alot of issues with how that was done. 1, they used 6 years to tease the fans 'will they, wont they' and when they finally get them together, we're left in the dark?! I mean (Look at how they did it in Castle, much better!)
And i know the whole pregnant thing with Bones was because she was pregnant in real life. And thats fair enough. But dont screw us out of they actually getting together for the first time. I know alot of fans waited on that moments. And thats it? And for the seasons after they got together (7-8) i think was doing a good job here and there. But in some places it was a bit boring aswell. I mean when the chased each other that was more fun at times. Learn from Castle guys! They make it both fun and interesting after they put our DD together. I'm not fan of lazy writing either. And as you said, thats what ruin' a good show. But i'm not going to paint the situation black yet. I will have to give them a chance. See how things develop. And i just hope and pray its for the better. Because the last half of season 8.. Not good! Not worthy of Bones the tv-show i know from the early days. Thank you!

[Dragonfire]

I really have my doubts about if they would have let Booth and Bones get together when they did if it wasn't for the Emily getting pregnant.  If that hadn't happened, I could totally see them still dragging their feet about it.  And there is no way that fans would have accepted Bones pregnant by someone else.  Though I did wonder at first if it was because she went and did the artificial insemination that was she was going to do like 2 seasons prior..because like you said, they didn't show us squat.  I can deal without every little detail, but good grief, they went to extremes in the other way.  Castle did it so much better.  So much.   I did like how Booth reacted though.  His face just lit up with joy.  That was good.  I've seen that episode - the last of season 6 - a few times since then, including after season 7 was under way and it was a done deal that they were together, and I do notice a few little subtle things here and there between them.  But it was ...too subtle.

I like seeing them together..when we get those moments..and when she isn't still being an idiot about something.  She makes more money so she can make decisions about the baby without his input?  I get that she has been wrapped up in her work and all that, but she got worse as the series progressed instead of better.  I saw some of the reruns from earlier seasons over the summer on one of the cable stations I get and she didn't seem as.....detached about relationships and stuff. 

I only saw a few minutes here and there of the show tonight.  Again...not that interested.  I guess I'm in a holding pattern until I know they don't screw up the wedding they are now promising us....or Pelante gets dead.  Arrested isn't enough..this smug ass would find a way to weasel out of that again.  Someone needs to kill him...and then cut the body into little pieces to make sure he's dead.

[Piffi]

Soo, i've watched both Bones and Castle now a few times.. And i know who the winner is for me! (Get a grip Bones!!)

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I'm going to rewatch the season 6 finale, to check out a few things. And i too enjoy them together, they got their moments. No doubt, but Bones being Bones.. She's known to say and do things other wouldnt. But she's getting better IMHO. And for the second episode. "Typical" they would go with a story like that. I didnt care for that really. But a few interesting things tho. Sweets, whats going to happen there? And for the second episode in a ro' Angie and Booth? Something is going to happen there.. I dont think they show a "argument" and a disagrement twice in a row, for no reason. I could be wrong, but i think that will come to a head down the road. One of them will snap, and things will happen. And someone has hacked Cam's creditcards and using her personal info? Even a blind man can see its Pelante for a mile away! DOH! One of the first things i said when you saw what happend.(Its Pelante targeting Booths friends)  I still want to check in next week, to see what happens. Both with Bones and Booth, but also with Angie and Booth, and with Cam and Pelante. But not as much as i'm looking forward to checking out whats next on Castle!

[Dragonfire]

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I haven't seen much of either episode of Bones...  Cam is hacked..and no one suspects it is Pelante screwing around again?  Please.  I thought these people were supposed to be smart..how they can not put 2 and 2 together.  There must be something in the water at the Jeffersonian making them get stupider.  It is like the writers selectively make characters dumber to justify weakness in their story.  And why in the world can't Angela do some of her super computer stuff to track stuff back to Pelante.  She's done all kinds of stuff with computers before that are pretty impressive..she's damn good with computers too, so she should be able to do more in that area than she has. 

Also, with Pelante..they established how good he was with computers the first time he showed up.  So then once he returned, framing Brennan, why didn't any of them stop to think that maybe he planted a bug or something in the house?  Or at the lab?  I don't know...I guess I would have thought that they would have looked for something like that, especially once Brennan was back and it was proven that he was behind it..especially once he turned up again and hacked into Hodgins money. 

I didn't see that Angela went after Booth again...but with how ...umm...forceful she was last week when she went after him, I'm not surprised really.  Angela doesn't let things drop and she is very loyal to Brennan.  She is probably seeing this as a sort of betrayal.  You are probably right...something is building there.  She is going to keep pushing at him... maybe it will end up that she pushes hard enough that he cracks and tells her the truth.  Something is going to give..and even though Brennan wouldn't have wanted innocent people to be endangered or killed indirectly because of their marriage, I have a feeling she is not going to react well when she finds out that Booth didn't find a way to tell her what was going on. 

I don't know what is going on with Sweets.  Though part of that is probably because I never watched all the last episode from last season.  They do have a lot of stuff going on...unfortunately, much of it is tied to Pelante in some way and I just don't care about him anymore.