Topic: Bones - Spoiler

[Piffi]

From what i've been reading about this new guy its not alot really. Only that he will be a "Booth Jr" or something. But nothing about how long he will be there, or what will happen. But knowing Hanson he may play the jealousy angle again. I could see something like Bones fancy this new guy as she reminds her of Booth back in the day etc. But with this new character that means the shit with Booth and Bones prolly will be handled quickly? It sure sounds like it. But i guess we will know more when they start to shoot again. I just really hope we get a real great season, since its their last season. Just hope they make something amazing. It would be real sad if the they manage to make the last season of the show a complete disaster. Because thats what everyone will remember.

[Dragonfire]

Or maybe Booth will be kept out of the field for some reason....has to recertify again or something - like he had to do have the surgery - so maybe Bones has to work a case with the new guy and Booth feels left out.
Hopefully they don't mess it up...like you said it would suck if they really screwed up the final season.  However, if anyone can do it, Hanson can.  Not the really a ...good thing to be positive about concerning a show runner, but..well...there it is.  If there is a way to turn this season into the worst of the series..or one of the worst of any series, Hanson can find it and do it, all while proclaiming how great the stories are...new character is wonderful and everyone loves them..the bad guy is so great...blah blah blah.

[Dragonfire]

I just found this...stuff about the new season....when the first episode takes place and all that. 
It isn't what I expected....though I shouldn't be surprised by one aspect.  They keep doing this.  S

And there is a bit in there about Wendell that I am not liking at all.  I have a really, really bad feeling about where that is going.

http://www.givememyremote.com/remote/2014/07/22/bones-stephen-nathan-and-jonathan-collier-tease-season-10-episode-200-the-conspiracy-big-lifestyle-changes-and-more/

[Piffi]

Hm, that was interesting. And what will they do with Wendell? Will they kill the character of? Looks like there will be some sorth of drama again this season. Dont know what to think about it. Knowing Hanson & Co, they might just fuck it up But i'll give it a chance before i say something. I saw somewhere that the Fox chairman said that if it was up to him, he would want Bones to go on for more then 10seasons. But i still think this will be their last season. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Dragonfire]

I have a bad feeling that they are going to kill Wendell.  There is the one part in there about him doing good...at first..something like that.  It is making me think that he will relapse or something ...or he was just acting fine not to worry them...something like that...and he'll die. 
I hadn't heard that the chairman of Fox wanted the show around longer.  Hmmm....perhaps that explains how it survived the move to the time slot of death on Friday last season...heck, even why it got a 10th season.  At this point, I don't think I'd be surprised if it was renewed again.  I really didn't think it would get picked up again this time.  So who knows.

[Piffi]

So, i just watched a teaser\spoiler\preview of S10. Aaand that was a bit interesting. Its out there somewhere anyways if you want to check it out.

[Dragonfire]

I saw a link for that the other day ...least I think it was for that.  Showed a picture of Booth in jail talking on the phone I think it was.  I didn't go watch...I will at some point probably.

[Piffi]

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Well, i just saw a interview with of the showrunners (Nathan) and he said some interesting stuff about season 10, and the upcoming 200th episode. And something about there will be a new baby for someone. Didnt say who tho. Dont know what to think of that. Think there is enough babies right now. But i guess thats just me?

[Dragonfire]

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Don't think I saw that stuff, though I did read something in a story about someone having a baby..hinted it could be Angela or Bones.  Even hinted it could be Cam I think too.  I know last season Angela and Hodgins said they wanted another baby....don't remember ever hearing anything about Bones and Booth wanting another baby.  Who knows what is going on there...or maybe it will be Cam and Aristoo - no clue if I spelled that right.

So not sure what to think about what they are planning.  When they have gotten too ...ambitious in the past with planning out stuff it has kind of blow up in their faces - Gormagon...Pelante... heck even this Ghost Killer nonsense...all that build up and then the killer is already dead too?  what the hell?  So....I guess at this point I just see a lot of potential for Hanson to royally screw stuff up again.

[Dragonfire]

I just found something about the new season of Bones that is ...interesting.

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http://tvline.com/2014/09/11/bones-daisy-pregnant-season-10-spoilers-sweets-father/

First of all...why the hell is Booth in general population?  And if Bones was implicated like it seemed at the end of the season - Booth's boss said to arrest her too - then how is she still allowed to work on stuff connected to official investigations? 
And Daisy and Sweets again?  Not sure what to think about that.  Though I did suspect that she could be the one pregnant once it was said for sure that someone would be pregnant this season. 

[Piffi]

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wow.. So they decided to go with Daisy huh? excuse me, but what the fuck are they thinking?! I dont like that choise at all. Now i couldnt open the video you posted because i live outside USA and the video is only for people in america. But anyways, the Booth and Bones situation. Dont know what to think about that really. Guess i will have to wait and see how Hanson & Co decides to fix it. I guess maby Bones can work with something? I dont know really. Or maby she's working without the FBI knows? Who knows what they are thinking. But why did they decide to go with Daisy as the pregnant one?! I mean, they made a real big thing out of it in interviews and stuff after the season ended. Made us almost belive that it was Angie and Hodge or Bones and Booth. But a Daisy? Almost a guest character? Does that mean she is back as a fulltime character this season? What does this mean for Sweets? I'm just concerned and confused right now. I mean, wtf? Dont know what to think about the season right now.

[Dragonfire]

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What the fuck are they thinking is right I think overall.  Yes I did think of her as a possibility....but really only because I was thinking what sort of batshit crazy thing can Hanson do next?  This is Hanson...if they is a stupid ass way to take the story, he is bound to pick that one.  I really thought that Angela or Cam was the most likely mother to be, with Bones an unlikely option.  But then I thought more...had this well mostly random thought that it would be just like Hanson & his idiots to bring Daisy back pregnant.  And lo and behold that is what they are doing.

Evidently the actress is pregnant in real life.  Ok...fine.  HOWEVER, Daisy is NOT a main character.  She turns up a handful of times per season - usually annoying me in some way - and that's it.  There is absolutely NO reason for them to write the pregnancy into the show like they did for Emily.  She was one of the main characters anyway.  But Daisy?  I don't quite get it either.  And Sweets being the dad??  That is the worst part for me really.  After all the crap with them...they were originally engaged, then Daisy ran off after Bones to wherever the hell they went to a dig...they sort of split up because of that, then back together again.  They were ready to move in together...right outside the freaking apartment on move in day even, and he decides the relationship is over and leaves her.  Ok...then when they see each other at work again, she's all hyper logical, trying even more than usual to be just like Bones, and they decide they don't work as a couple.  Ok.  But now, after they both seemed to have moved on, and Sweets was even dating someone else I think, Daisy turns up pregnant with his kid??  What the hell?  In the video - I'll try to remember a little more about it for you in a minute - Daisy is saying something about stuff happening while someone has been gone - I think she is talking to Booth...during that time she and Lance saw each other some and now she's pregnant. 

The new season is supposed to be starting 4 months after the end of the last episode - so once again, Hanson and his idiots have found a way to separate Bones and Booth.  Anyway.  4 months later.  Daisy is shown and she looks like she is more than 6 months pregnant - it is not believable that she and Lance only hooked up after Booth got hauled away and she is that far along...unless it is a multiple pregnancy.  It seems more like they got back together more than 4 months ago but Sweets never told anyone for whatever reason.  Lance is shown briefly around that bit too and he does look happy.  So who knows what the hell is going on there.  If they absolutely felt like they had to include the pregnancy of the actress, why are she and Lance suddenly back together someway?  They could have had her come back and be engaged to someone else and pregnant or married or whatever.  And Lance...didn't he start dating someone else by the end of last season?  So no, I don't get that at all.  I'm not that ...ummm..aggravated - not to Pelante levels  anyway - but I still think it is stupid. 

Now on to other stuff that was in that clip.  Let me try to remember.
Booth is in prison and it looks like he is in general population - something that is not good for a law enforcement person in general, and seems really bad in this case.  There are other inmates that seem to be out to get him - perhaps put up to it by whoever framed Booth to begin with.  Least that is my theory.  At least one guard seems to be in on it too...or at least in on making this things more miserable for Booth - cutting his phone call home way short and stuff like that.  Looks like Booth gets into a fight or two with some other inmates.  At one point, some of them are holding him while someone else beats on him.  So...that is not good.
At the Jeffersonian, there is some skeleton that they are going over...covered in something.  Said that the bad guy - not sure if a name was said or not - did something to the remains to try to prevent them from finding evidence.  Can't remember if they said who the body was.  But they are all working on it.  Bones, Cam, Angela, Hodgins...I think Clark was there too.  I don't remember seeing the other interns - Wendell, Aristoo, the one Hodgins calls Opie, or the arrogant ass, but maybe one of them was there.  I didn't notice if Daisy was in on any of the investigation or not either.  Talk about finding evidence for who framed Booth...  Something happens and Booth is out at some point...no idea how.  But he was looking for the bad guy...someone told him that other agents blame him as for killing the 3 agents back in the last episode and no one would help him..  I'm thinking I saw Caroline ...don't remember her saying anything..maybe she was just in the background or something.  Bones found someone else to live since the house was basically destroyed...see a little of Bones showing the place to Booth - just a few seconds of them standing in what looked sort of like a kitchen/living room area.  Could be interesting...though they have to muck it up with Daisy/Lance/baby nonsense.

I have read a few different times now that Booth - who has severed in the military in war zones and been with the FBI for who knows how long - will have PTSD ...not because an armed hit squad was sent to the house to kill him and his family, but basically because there was a dirty agent at the FBI.  His trust was betrayed...something like that.  Which ok I get that.  His trust has been shaken for sure, but that sort of thing doesn't cause PTSD.

[Piffi]

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Uhm, So Daisy (or the actress playing Daisy is pregnant in real life yes?) And thats all good and nice. Congrats to her. But i still dont get it. Did we even see her in S09? I will have to rewatch the season to find out. Because i honestly dont remember. Why write her in to the show again with this stupid story? Why just dont write her out till the pregnancy is done? And she's ready to work again? They did the same thing with Emily OFCOURSE. Because she wasnt one of the lead characters. she WAS\IS the lead character. She is Bones. And tv-show is named BONES. And if they really wanted to, they could just edit the pregnancystuff out. Like they did in Homeland. Claire Daines was pregnant in whole S01or S02, and we didnt even know. But it makes more sense that they went that route with Emily. But not Daisy. But then again, Hanson & Co is known to do weird things the last few seasons. So i'm not shocked that they go this route at all. But with Sweets and Daisy dating other people, and suddenly now they are expecting a child together. Well, Any idiot can make a baby onfurtunatly. I guess they decided one night to hook up again (i guess?) I'm not sure if i completely agree with the story Hanson & Co is trying to tell us right now. But ok.

And now they start up again with 4 months past allready huh? Isnt that the usual? Havent they done that the last few seasons or something? Sometimes i guess its ok to have a timejump like that. But not every single time. Too much! And now, Booth goes to jail yes? Because of that dirty FBI dude, and Hanson & Co decides to skip out on 4 months? Almost a half a year? And Bones is just stuck to do what? Think about all the good tv they could make on those 4 months that they decided to just skip. I dont care for that. And i dont like that at all. Just like when they did the dirty, and the episode after or something she was almost due to have the baby. I mean, wtf? I Mean,  why skip the good parts? Why skip out the first months of Booth in prison? And why skip out on Bones dealing with Booth going to prison etc? And the househunting aswell. I guess i just dont understand it all. Take a look at Castle they dont do the timejumps all the time. And they make it work.



I've read in some interviews and i saw two interviews too that Bones might have some PTSD because of they broke his trust or something. I can get (as you) that he feeled betrayed and stuff. And he got every reason to be. But with him being in the war etc. I dont see the PTSD some very likely and a real scenario. But ok i guess. We'll just have to see how Hanson & Co will play it out. I just hope thats a issue they will fix quick. Atleast the PTSD stuff anyways. It will be interesting to see how they will deal with FBI saga. Will it be a story trough out whole S10? Will they rap it up in just a few episodes? Some questions there tho.
I guess we will find out what they are thinking in two weeks time allready.

[Dragonfire]

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Daisy was in season 9 at least once.  She was at the wedding - with the other interns...including the arrogant guy who irritates everyone.  By the way - slightly off topic here - I saw his first episode again like a few weeks ago.  Yes he was still acting like a know it all then, but he wasn't as much of an arrogant ass then. 

Anyway..back to the subject at hand.  Daisy was at the wedding.  Other than that, I'm honestly not sure how much else she was in episodes.  Maybe one or two other times..not much.  I don't remember her and Lance even talking last season, yet here they are, having a baby.  Ummmm....ok.  Whatever.  Another dumbass move by Hanson and his idiots.  I'm really not that surprised anymore after all the other dumbass, boneheaded things they have done.  Yes it made sense to write in Emily's pregnancy - and I agree that they bungled how they did that too.  Only hinting around that something happened between them and then bam, she's pregnant.  I remember thinking over that summer break that they better not go and be really stupid and have it where Bones used the sperm he'd donated before his brain tumor and had herself inseminated.  No they don't have to show every little detail...but good grief.  They have gone way out of their way in the other extreme.  And now, it is basically the same with Lance and Daisy.  Last we knew, they weren't even talking to each other, yet here she is looking like she is 6 months pregnant - after a 4 month jump.  I don't remember any hints at the end of last season that they were getting back together or anything.  Heck...I can't even remember for sure if Daisy was in any of the last few episodes. 

I don't know that Daisy is working when the show picks back up.  When she was seen in the trailer thingy, she wasn't at the lab in a lab coat.  She was just in regular clothes and it looked like maybe she was stopping by Lance's office while someone was there...I'm thinking Booth since she says something about how they got together since over the last few months - something like that.  Heck...she was probably stopping to get Lance so they could go do a doctor's appointment or something.  Which...ok.  fine.  Whatever.  But after how that relationship was ended with Lance leaving her on the doorstep of the apartment they were going to move into together and running for the hills so to speak, it just seems....odd that they would hook up again.  Like I said before, with what has happened, it would have made more sense if Daisy had moved on with a new relationship and that guy was the dad.  But it seems like Hanson and his idiots can't have these characters in relationships with people they don't work with.  Bones and Booth both had a serious of relationships that didn't work.  Angela was a mess for a while after they split up her and Hodgins for no freaking reason - yes I'm still irked about that...lol  - Cam was dating that doctor for a while but that went to hell.  Now she's with Aristoo - not sure how to spell his name.  Angela was even with Wendell for a while.  We have never heard about him dating anyone else.  Opie - I can't remember his name..just that Hodgins calls him Opie lol - was with Michelle till she dumped him.  Heck, I almost expected her to be the one pregnant at first.  Maybe the new guy took off when she told him or something and Cam is freaking out...  that might have been somewhat interesting.  Clark had a girlfriend, but I think they broke up.  The one depressed intern guy....don't think he has a girlfriend either.  Think he talked about one a few seasons ago...maybe.  Hmm.  Anyway, it's like these characters are somehow prevented from forming relationships outside of work.  If they do, it never lasts.  Guess they figured might as well follow the pattern with Lance and Daisy.

Yup...4 months later when the new episodes start.  That has been what they have done for the last several seasons.....since 7 I think it was...When Emily was pregnant.  Six ended with her being pregnant...seven started up months later.  Then there were a few shorter jumps during the season.  Like the episode after Christine was born, was liek 6 weeks later or something since Bones was going back to work.  Then the end of that season, Bones took off with Christine because of Pelante framing her for murder.  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.  You already know how I feel about that annoying character.  Anyway, Bones was gone several months then ... thinking 4 to 6.   Last year, after Booth called off the wedding, because of the ass Pelante, it jumped several months again.  No idea now how long that jump was since I never did watch all of that episode - I was still too irritated.  They weren't physically apart last year, but it did cause some emotional issues and strain.  And now another 4 month time jump.  This is getting old and ridiculous.  Enough with finding ways to keep them apart someway at the end of a season.  Think up something else already. 

At this point, we don't know if there was some sort of trial or what...don't know exactly how Booth ended up in prison..just that he is.  It looked like a big prison, not a local lock up type thing where people are kept while waiting for a trial, but I could be wrong about that.  Hmmm.....I guess Max was in a more secure prison while waiting on his trial...because of the nature of the charges I think.  Hmm....maybe that is what is going on with Booth.  It would seem like 4 months would be a bit quick to get a respected FBI agent tried, convicted and set to prison.  Though this is Hanson we are talking about.  He is not on good terms with logic.   Even if they had shown some sort of condensed version of those months would have been better than skipping them altogether.  And never mind that a former law enforcement officer is not put in general population with the the hard criminals - murders and such.  Though of course, Booth has to be in that situation so he can be in danger from some sort of attempted attack.  Who ever is pulling the strings - and I still think his boss has to be the dirty agent - is still pulling strings and trying to get Booth killed in prison.   I don't get why skip on seeing more of Bones dealing with him being in prison either.  Not that I'm happy he's locked up.  But they want to go this route, then do it right and don't skip over most of it.  I think I would have rather had the new season pick up right after that ending and have stuff get resolved - at least to the point where Booth is cleared - before he is hauled off to federal prison.  Go ahead and leave some stuff unresolved for later - though Hanson can't seem to do those type of long stories.  he's bungled every one they have tried.   Hanson and the writers are getting too dependent on the time jumps.  It is like they see this as a way to screw with the characters a bit without any ...backlash because they immediately jump forward and all is well or something.  Just stop it already.

Booth having trust issues once he is back at the FBI - because I believe he is back pretty quick...I have read about him working with a younger agent some  - makes sense.  I could see him being more...ummm...standoffish with other agents..not letting anyone get to close..not being as willing to share information about cases with other agents...that sort of stuff.  I don't see how him feeling betrayed - which yes he is justified in - can cause PTSD.  Now if they said it was tied to the attack at the house..because even though he'd been through war and not had issues, this time it was brought into his home and his wife and daughter were threatened.  That I could seeing causing some PTSD issues...but losing trust?  Not so much.  Yes he will have issues tied to that to deal with, but that doesn't make it PTSD.   

I don't know how long everything is going to drag out.  Booth is out of jail at some point in the first episode I think.  That trailer shows him out in a few place...including the new house...apartment..whatever.  I think that trailer was just for the first episode, though maybe it is for the first few...  Anyway, from a few other things I've read, it sounds like he will be back at work anyway fairly soon.  I did read about someone being cast as the new younger male agent he has to work with for a while - no idea how long though.  Maybe the new guy will end up like Detective Slob in Castle and vanish after a few episodes.  lol

I guess after how well the finale last season actually worked, I should be expecting some sort of mess now.  It seems like there is a lot of mess for every little bit of something done well.     

[Piffi]

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Hehe, well.. Thanks for all that! Really appreciating it. I always enjoy reading your input on stuff.
I'll just start on the top and work my way down. So lets start with Daisy and Sweets. I guess we can say Sweets is a regular. He's in every episode, so that they will do something with him i guess is ok. But Daisy (who i didnt remember even being in the wedding) Why write her back in the show as pregnant? Why just not keep her away? I would like it much more if Cam was pregnant (and i dont even like Cam. Not even a bit) It just doesnt make any sense to me what so ever. We do know now that Daisy is pregnant with Sweets child yes? And we know they hooked up or something in the summer? But do we know if Hanson & Co have decided to write her back as a main character to the show? Or will we just see her like we did the last few seasons? If thats the case.. Well then Hanson & Co can just go fuck off. Because now they have used to the summer to play this pregnancything way up. Almost like it would be Bones and Booth. And if they decide to mess with this again, well. I'm not even going to go there.

And for the freaking timejumps all the time. The last episode of S09 was the best episode by far. In the last 3 seasons IMHO. And for me personally, i would love to see how Bones (& Co) is dealing with Booth being in prison. And how Booth is dealing with all this shit. BUT if they going to have to the timejump to 4 months later. We will again miss all the important stuff again. Wich is not cool. Not all. I just dont see why? You DONT NEED A TIMEJUMP EVERY SINGLE SEASON!!!! Thanks!





And with Booth having his trust issues. Well, i get that. I really do, because if he cant trust his boss. Who can he trust? Besides Bones? But PTSD? Nah, not likely IMHO. Not after all he's been trough. I really hope they fix that issue real quick.




And finally next Thursday (in 8 days) Bones is back on the tv screen. I cant wait to see how they will do things! FINALLY THINGS ARE STARTING BACK ON!!