Topic: Castle - Spoiler

[Piffi]

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I have to be a bit short tonight, but i will write a bit better\longer tomorrow. As said 'Holy shit' i guess she's back in New York atleast. No reason to stay in DC anymore?And how\when will she get her job back? Will we see it, or does she have her job back next episode? Rick with his Writer vest on etc. I guess we'll have to wait an see! I loved alot of things about this episode. Rick calling Kate for "honey" and all the Caskett moments. They dont care about the people anymore. And they are so secure with each other. Great. And how Kate almost cried when Rick told her about "this isnt working anymore" we all knew what was coming. And we got Perlmutter back.. Intersting choise. But wasnt Lanie or Tamala on somekind of vacation or something? Maby thats why she isnt on the show yet. And Ryspesito is back to their old self again. And how they gang up on Rick. Classic Castle moments! From season 3 etc. Great to see that back. And Gates, you motherfucker you. Still dont like Rick eh? So how will he talk his way back to the team? And i'm glad Agent Mentor is gone. Next one out have to be Det. Slob! What a fucker. Why do i think something will happen to Rick in that hostage situation? Why do i think the crazed fan will hurt him somehow? Thats all i have for now. I'll be back with some more tomorrow! :\
But so far this season is actually the best.

[Dragonfire]

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Of all the ways for her to go back to New York, I never thought of her being fired.  Maybe ending the...probation type period and having to tell them she wanted the job permanently or something like that..but not actual firing.  But I think it totally fits that she leaked that story to the press about the Russian woman.  Kate was not happy with what CIA jerk was doing, so it is completely in character for Kate to do that.  I can't remember if she has done something like that before or not..hmm.  I know she' sort of ....bent the rules a bit before and on the force, she got away with it for the most part.  She was suspended the one time that we know of..and she did try to fight against what the feds were doing in different episodes when they popped up before.  It will be interesting to see how and when she gets back on the force.

Along those lines, I saw Stana Katic on The Chew today - talk show/cooking show.  She briefly talked about that..  One of the hosts - there are 5 I think - said something about her being fired.  I can't remember exactly what she said, but it was something like seeing how she deals with not having a job in law enforcement and how she makes her way back to the force...and we'll see if that happens in the next episode or not.  That makes me think more and more that she won't be back on the force at the beginning of the episode.  The guys or Gates call Rick because that nutjob woman says she will only talk to Rick.  Of course Rick would agree to go, so Kate would go with him.  I've had the impression that Rick has the vest..either at his place or keeps it in the trunk or something.  So he'd take it with him.  So I'm thinking she isn't back on teh force yet next episode..and that will be something different for her to deal with...Rick being in a dangerous situation when she has no authority to do anything.  Ryan and Esposito may keep her more in the loop and stuff, but she won't be able to order anyone to get Rick out or something.  Rick might get hurt some...I just meant he isn't really in danger of dying.  Maybe an injury of some sort.  Maybe even shot in the vest..and Kate being outside and hearing the shot, but not knowing at first if he is ok.  

With Gates..yes she was back to being bitchy to Castle.  That was a bit...disappointing, though I wonder if she did that mostly for show...to cover her own backside so to speak.  Like the plausible deniability she mentioned at the end of Still when she told Kate to kiss him already.  She only did it the one time early in the episode.  Later in the episode, she wasn't snapping at him.  She was focused on Agent Mentor.  When Gates said that stuff about the victims mattering and catching the killers and all that..she was saying what Kate has always felt about the work.  It was sort of like Gates realized that Kate was having issues with the way the feds do things..that she knew Kate would want to speak up for the victim but couldn't, so she did it for her.  Also, before that..when the guys and Castle were going through the stuff on that flashdrive that Kate passed Rick, Gates said something about how she trusted they were just finishing paperwork...then she went off on her way.  Something about how she looked and said that makes me think she knew they were doing something the feds wouldn't like but she was ok with it.  She didin't like how the feds took over and then declared the case closed when nothing was figured out.  I'm guessing once Kate is back, Rick will be back too.  Gates will probably complain about it in some way - she has to keep up the appearance that he annoys her to no end - but I don't think she'll try too hard to kick him out.  She's seen how much he has helped..and she told Kate to do whatever necessary to get Alexis back when she was taken.  

I'm glad Agent Mentor is gone too.  I never liked her..she was even less likable in this last episode.  I do wonder though if she had anything to do with Kate being fired.  She's seen a few times now how Kate has not reacted well to the whole close the case now..sweep things under the rug..etc etc stuff.  And she saw Kate's reaction to what CIA jerk was doing to the Russian woman.  So I've started wondering if she ...well...ratted Kate out.  Though if Agent Mentor did do that, maybe she did it because she realized that the job wasn't right for Kate - because of her need to justice and getting closure and all that - but she saw that Kate was going to stick with it, so Agent Mentor did this to give Kate a way out..or something like that.  I did read a little at castletv.net...someone said something about how it is good that Kate was fired because she isn't a quitter and she would have stuck with the job even though she was unhappy...it would have taken her a while to get to the decision to leave..this way, it is out of her hands and she's back home.

I loved the moments between Kate and Rick..right from that video call  at the beginning.  That was so cute..especially how she kissed her phone and he acted like he grabbed it from the phone.    They looked good together at the end on the couch too.  She did look worried when he said they needed to talk..but she didn't stop him or anything.  They are talking and facing things now..not letting them fester until someone breaks.  That is wonderful.  Perlmutter is fine..I kind of like how he and Rick interact.  I just would have liked to see Lanie.  I haven't heard anything about her being on a vacation or anything.  Perlmutter has turned up every so often since the first season..no idea why.  But that probably is more realistic...Lanie wouldn't be the only medical examiner in New York, so it makes sense that they would sometimes deal with another one.   I liked how Ryan and Esposito were teasing Castle.  Back to normal.    It is so funny when they get on him about something..like when Rick thought he was cursed by a mummy..or when he thought the video was going to kill him..  I love those type of episodes.  I can see Ryan and Esposito teasing Rick about the wedding planning and stuff once that starts.  And Rick and Esposito teasing Ryan about the baby - like they did with the doll.  I think it would be good if Esposito turns into a big teddy bear once the baby is born.  Getting all sorts of toys...if it is a girl, saying she can't date until she's 30..stuff like that.  I think that would be fun.

Ohhh...I almost forgot.  Detective Slob needs to go away.  Like immediately.  And I think they may need to bring in a hazmat team to clean the desk before Kate gets it back.  How does he not lose important stuff in that dump? Geeze.  I little unorganized or sloppy would be one thing..but that is a whole different level.  Really all I noticed about him was that he got in Rick's way there at the beginning - keeping him from the crime scene - and then that he turned Kate's desk into a dump.  I know Kate said something to him at the end about how he earned the position or something like that...it being obvious that he was a good detective or something.  Where she got that I don't know.  I guess I missed that.  Rick's reaction to the desk was hilarious though.  It really looked like he wanted to say what the hell happened to Beckett's desk?  Clean it up now.  Detective Slob didn't bother me too much I guess...but he doesn't fit..at all.  So.  He needs to take his piles of garbage and go.  Immediately. 

[Piffi]

Same goes here, will have some answers for you tomorrow. (Not as good as yours ofc) But after some sleep and work, i will have a few things in reply. And i just watched a' sneek peak from the next episode. Can turn out to be a doozy.

[Dragonfire]

Oh I agree.

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I still haven't watched the entire episode again - I just watched the beginning again..I love their video chat..that was so cute.  Oh...I did notice that Pi called Martha Mrs. R.  So, he might call Kate Miss. B.  I really want to see Kate interact with him..just how she reacts to being in the loft with him when he is making papaya steaks or making some vile looking juice in the morning.  Anyway..back to next episode.  From what I remember, in the preview I saw, it does kind of look like Rick might get shot in the bullet proof vest.  It looked like he sort of flew back through the air a bit and crashed down into a glass table or something.  So he may get hurt, but not seriously.

[Piffi]

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Blargh, i got a few words of what we've seen so far and a what i think. So last episode we saw the ending of the FBI saga. "Its good to have her back home" But she got fired because she leaked the info to the media. Thats so in her character, she lives for justice and the families. And we all know what she thought of that CIA smuck and Agent Mentor. And with the grin Agent Mentor had when she fired her, i think she enjoyed firing her. But as said, i think it was the perfect way to end the FBI arc. I dont think Kate would have quit either. She's to stubbern. And it was a nice twist with some sidedish. I honestly didnt see it coming. And how will Kate come back to the 12th? Will she have to ask for her job back? Will Gates ask her if she wants the job back? And when she comes back will Detective Slob get fired? Take his mess and get the hell out plz! And i'm not sure either if she will be back at the 12th come Monday. (I hope not actually) i hope they use that episode to get her back. Just not starting the episode with her back at her desk. But Rick as the hostage negotiater. Who made that happen? We know she only wants to talk to Rick (the nutjob woman that is) But did Gates said yes? Did someone higher up say yes? Did Kate help at all? And what does she think of the situation? If she's not back at the 12th and cant do much. And IF he get shot (but not serious) how will she react, if she only hear the shot and dont know anything. Will it remind her of when SHE got shot? And i liked the Caskett moments. Its more and more of the Caskett moments in each episode. Wich is great. And its nice to see Kate how she's grown over the 6 seasons. Both how Rick and Kate have grown together. Lets be honest, they've been bestfriends for a while before they got together. The episodes (so far) is way more personal now than the previous ones. And when she (Kate) gets her job back, how will she be able to get Rick back with her? I'm not sure Gates will be "sure, welcome back Rick" we saw how she reacted when she saw him back at the 12th with Espo and Ryan. We all know he will be back. But how? Maby Kate wont go back without him? Oh, speaking of FBI.. I hope now that Body of Proof is gone (taken of the air) I hope we see Agent Shaw back. I liked her! Its a shame really i actually like Lisa Edelsten, the actress. She was allright in 'House' And now that Kate is back in NY will she move in with Rick? Is it that time yet? And will they keep the firing a secret? We know Kate doesnt like to speak about that kinda of stuff. Will they just say "she quit, blah blah" ? Only a few days left. And after this episode i'm leaving for a "much needed" vacation. Something i'm really looking forward to! Well, thats it for me now.

[Dragonfire]

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I think it ended well too.  AT first I was thinking Kate should have gotten to the point where she was fed up with their crap and not being able to give justice to the victims, but once I thought about it, I decided this is better.  Kate is a bit stubborn.  And after the fuss she made to begin with over taking the job and Rick doesn't have squat to say about it, she was going to work extra hard to try to prove that she made the right decision in taking the job..even though she wasn't liking it.  It wasn't like what she thought it would be.  She was told before she took the job - either at the end of the interview, or when the one guy told you to call for an interview - that they wanted people like her on the task force...think outside the box and all that.  But in reality, they just want mindless drones that will blindly follow orders and never question anything.  That is not Kate.

I'm thinking she isn't back to work yet when the episode begins.  Maybe whatever happens in the episode will help to get her back on the force.  And I agree, Detective Slob needs to take is trash heap off Kate's desk and go away.  Not sure how Gates is going to deal with it..asking Kate back or waiting for Kate to bring it up or what.

As for Rick doing the negotiation... The woman said she would only talk to him..she could say that she will kill a hostage..or two...or more if she doesn't get to talk to Rick.  At that point, I don't think Gates or anyone else at the 12th would stop it..  Though not sure how Gates would be involved in a hostage situation.  Hmmm.  Depending on how Rick handles the situation, and if he gets shot in the process - in the vest - it might make Gates look at him a little differently..be what finally puts her over to seeing how helpful he is.  I think she did get to the point of kind of appreciating him..but this could really do it.  And I think Kate would go with Rick and she would do what she could to help..giving Rick advice or something.  Maybe she will figure out something that is big for the case, and that can lead to her getting her job back.

I would love for Agent Shaw to return.  I liked her.  She wasn't too....arrogant in how she dealt with stuff.  She didn't really act like she looked down on Kate and the guys.  And if I remember right, she picked up on stuff between Rick and Kate even though the two of them were in full on denial at the time.  So it would be interesting to see her come back and find out about the engagement. 

Kate was spending a lot of time at Rick's by the end of last season.  We haven't seen any indication that she still has her place in New York...I think it would make sense for her to move in.  Course maybe she doesn't want to deal with Pi.  :lol  Especially if she heard about the juicer incident.  She seemed comfortable at the loft in some of those episodes last season.  And something is evidently going to change with the Alexis/Pi situation.  I don't remember where I read it now..tvguide.com or something maybe..but I can tell you what it is if you want.   

I've seen pictures from either episode 5 or 6.  Rick and Kate are both back at the 12th...doing an interrogation.  The lighting in that room is horrible..it keeps getting darker and darker for some reason. 

[Piffi]

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I had i really long speach ready. But i'm just completly empty. Just empty. But i will say this tho before going to bed (before i have to work again tomorrow) Sure, if you want to tell, please do I want to know whats up between Pi and Alexis.. I hope it got something with breaking up to do.

[Dragonfire]

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Unfortunately, there is no breakup that I have read about for Alexis and Pi.  But something is going to change...it could be better for us, since maybe it will mean he isn't around as much.  He at least won't be there to run the juicer at bad times.

Alexis and Pi are going to get their own place in the episode that airs on the 28th.  That might be the one that is supposed to go over how Alexis found out about his engagement too.  There wasn't a lot of information about it, but Rick is less than thrilled.  I'm thinking that maybe Rick is going to kind of flip out over this...and then maybe alexis will come back with you didn't talk to me before getting engaged nonsense.  They need to settle that..if there really is a big issue there.  Really, we haven't seen any major issues with Alexis and Kate.  I have read different things from interviews from Molly Quinn where she keeps saying that Alexis is upset ..hurt...maybe will sabotage the wedding...one thing I read said she thinks they should break up for a while.  No.  Hell no.  Anyway, I am kind of wondering if all this...tension and nonsense is being built up by Molly Quinn to be bigger than it really is.  It almost seems like she is trying to make it a big deal..pointing out stuff from other episodes that was really nothing.  And Quinn did say that she missed the scenes that Alexis and Rick had together in earlier seasons.  Seems almost like she is trying to convince the writers to give Alexis more to do since she was around even less last season.  Whatever is going on, I don't like that side of Alexis.  She needs to grow up a bit - she is always telling her dad that she is grown up now and all that. 

[Piffi]

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Ugh, i dont know what to say. But when it comes to Molly Quinn she's been known to say things about her character and other stuff about the show that isnt true or never happens. Maby as you said she's saying things she hopes will happen and maby the writer will listen? Either way i dont like it. I get her in one way. But be happy that you are on a hit show as Castle when 19 years old. Be happy with what you allready got! Its not many at her age that got her money, fame, etc. So shut up and do what your told.The show is a love story (Andy and Terri's lovestory!) about Rick and Kate. And why in the blue hell should she want them to maby break up for a while? If thats her or the character speaking.. Fuck off! Thats just very brat like behavior. And if Pi and Alexis wants to move together, great! Let'em do that. But from what i've read here and other places. I'm starting to have a few problems with Alexis the character. Start to dislike her. But i guess Andy got a plan for everything, but i dont like the direction he's going with Alexis so far! And for Molly.. She is what she is. But i dont like all the "hype" is trying to get around her character etc, and then it never happens! Fans get upset and stuff when she does that.

[Piffi]

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Another sneak peek is out! It looks really great Looks like it going to be a doozy.

[Dragonfire]

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I think I read somewhere else that Quinn has said stuff that doesn't happen.  It does kind of seem like she is trying to get more screen time for herself and more attention.  Alexis wasn't around as much last year..but she was in college...get over it.  Don't go making comments and stuff about Rick and Kate needing to break up for a while and that Alexis might sabotage stuff.  After what they have gone through, especially with the DC stuff, Rick and Kate are stronger than they were before.  The relationship is stronger now.  I don't see them breaking up because of something Alexis would do.  They better not go that way.  That will get to me to Bones levels of pissed. 
I'm still not a fan of Pi, though he didn't annoy me as much last time...but he was barely there.  At least with them moving in together somewhere, he is out of the loft and won't be interrupting Rick and Kate.   I'm not liking Alexis as much at the moment either..though some of that is because of what I have read lately about her being hurt and stuff...and Quinn's thoughts.  So.  I'll wait and see.  Just don't want to see Alexis go down that road.

I read something in my new Entertainment Weekly..it mentions the next episode of Castle as one of the shows to watch this week..says it is the best of the new season so far.  And that Castle is avoiding the inanity that happened with the relationship on Bones once they got together.     Other people agree that Castle is doing much better than Bones did.  It helps that Castle didn't drag it out as long as Bones did too.

[Piffi]

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Ugh, i can discuss Bones vs Castle all night, but i wont. Castle (the show) did everything so much better than Bones in everything. A level higher than Bones. They was showing HOW they got together. I think that was important to the fans. Not talking about a hot sex scene or anything. But after all these years they finally get together (Both bones and castle) and Bones decide to cheat the fans of their first kiss etc? Well, we so how its working out for them. And what does " And that Castle is avoiding the inanity that happened with the relationship on Bones once they got together." means? 
And for the Alexis character and Molly the actress behind her. From the season 1 episode 1 Alexis is written in a way that she isnt lead actress. She got a allright part, but not in every episode. She's talked about alot but not in every episode. For a good reason. We've seen her quite regularly trough the seasons. But she has to fit in the story and picture to be there. Or it would be weird. Should she follow her dad to work, just because of more screentime? Hey, she got more screentime than Lanie ffs! And she is the MI. I liked both Alexis and Molly before, but now not so much unfortunatly. She's turning out to be a spoiled brat. And how she is in the interviews lately. Well, not good. I hope we wont see her too much, if she doesnt change her behavior. Yeah. I got alot to say.. But yeah. Good night!

[Dragonfire]

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I could too..as you haven't probably noticed.  lol 
I think right from the start, Castle was about the relationship.  The fact that he's a famous, wealthy author and she's a homicide detective is just ...background to the relationship.  The show has followed their relationship...how they first met..how he was interested right away and not shy to show it..how she kept that to herself...how they became friends..found a way to work together..  Even with the wild theories he comes up with sometimes, they do sort of think alike when it comes to some things.  I know I read an interview with Marlowe once...I think it was late in season 4, before they actually got together.  He said then about it being about the relationship and how the journey they go on.  He said it might take a little while for them to get together, but once they were together, they would be together.  He wasn't interested in all that back and forth crap that other shows have done.  And that makes a difference.

I think that means that Rick and Kate didn't get boring once they got engaged...or something like that.  Maybe that we are still seeing the nice moments between them where they are sweet with each other...like that video phone call and stuff.  Once Booth and Bones were together, we really didn't get to see things like that.  Yes we've seen them together..but...well...hmmm.  I guess it is missing some of the ...sweetness that Castle is still doing.  Maybe part of that is because of the audience didn't get to see Bones and Booth get together...not even the first kiss like you mentioned.    I'm glad that Booth and Bones finally got together..don't get me wrong there.  It just could have been handled a bit better.  When I first saw the episode when she tells him she is pregnant at the end, I still wasn't sure what had happened between them.  Since we didn't see anything develop - heck they didn't even talk about going on a date or something - and remember, a few seasons before, she was going to be artificially inseminated and talked him into donating.  So at that point, because of how they didn't show us squat, I didn't know if she went and got artificially inseminated or if something happened between them.  They have bungled things even more than I thought at first...after seeing how well it is being done in Castle.

Right...Alexis isn't a main character and never has been, though she has received more attention at times - like when she was kidnapped.  You're right...we've seen Alexis at least a little bit in every episode and Lanie is still missing.  Tamala Jones isn't having hissy fits in interviews.  Though..maybe the cast is told to raise some questions when they do interviews to keep viewers intrigued or something.  Hmmm. 
One thing they could do that would give Alexis more screen time without her being a brat...she could work with Lanie again.  She talked about at the time how doing that was important to her.  She's still in New York...she could still do that.  Yes it would have to be around her college schedule...unless Pi's influence has caused her to drop out or something.  I always liked that Alexis was nice and normal..and had such a good relationship with Rick.  No temper tantrums or hissy fits or whatever.  I saw some people over the years complain that Alexis wasn't a bratty teenager...maybe she is just hitting that phase a little later.  Just hopefully gets settled soon.  I did read like a week ago, another quote from Quinn, saying how Alexis wants to put her foot down with her dad.  I was like excuse me...she is the child.  Anyone puts a foot down, it should be Rick.

[Piffi]

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Ok, so lets see how the getting together thing was done. Castle in the last episode of season 4 alot of shit happened between them and Kate took the first\second step (Rick invited on the movie date if you remember, and she said yes) And after alot of stuff goin on in the episode it ends with Kate going to Rick's place and we all know what happens next. Boom! And in the next episode we see them waking up together almost. She brings him coffee. Thats was the perfect way to get them together, and how they have kept the playfullness, and kept the god old banter and he\she said. Just like they did before they got together. And Andrew is doing a great job with it and he has said before that he wont break them up. So i think that it wont ever happen. The ratings are trough the roof, Castle is getting alot more fans. They are doing everything correct at the moment. Why change a winning formula? Dont think he wont. I think they will be together for the rest of the show. Lets face it, if Rick and Kate breaks up why would he come to the precint and shadow Kate as he is doing? What the show is build on? Wont happen, so if that happens that means no more Castle. And how things are looking now i see alot of great years ahead of them. Hey look at Bones they are "going strong" on their 9th season. And thats really strong, and i think Castle can do the same if they continue in the same path as they do right now. They have done it right!  And for Bones, look how they put them together after 6 years. This intern dude dies (shot by Booths old friend) and Bones spends the night with Booth and starts to cry. THATS IT! AFTER 6 YEARS, THATS IT! We know they had sex since she told Ange, and since she told Booth she was preggers with his child. That was real disappointing. Why?! Why cheat the fans out of that after 6 long years?! I mean, i dont get it. And boom a few months later we see her pregnant and him cooking in the kitchen. Yeah, not so good writing there Mr.Hanson! And we have been cheated out on a lot of things. Wich i still dont like. Take a good look at your neighbours Castle. Thats how its done!! And of Alexis and the whole shit going on there. I dont know really, i know that she is acting like a fucking spoiled brat. (lets face it) she's always been spoiled and thats fair enough, with a rich daddy and a mommy who's never been there. I've never minded that she's been spoiled. BECAUSE she's always been humble and never been a brat. But thats changed so far this season. I think it might have something to do with Paris maby. And IF there are any blowups between her and her dad, i really hope he sets his foot down. And tell her whats right and wrong. And i hope Kate is on his side in this! We know Rick has allowed alot of shit when it comes both to Kate and Alexis! Its time to show who's the parent is. If Alexis continue the way she does without any reaction from Rick i will be disappointed. But Andrew always got a plan for what he does. And i think we will see the answer down the line. (i hope so anyways) And for Lanie i dont know why she isnt at the show yet. And she's almost never in any interviews either. I've seen two sneek peaks of the next episode, and i think this might just be a doozy one, and if its supposed to be the best so far this season even tho the season have just started its going to be great! So far we have had only great episodes! Even tho i didnt like Agent Mentor there or Dect. Slob! But both of them will\are gone! Dect Slob will be gone when Kate comes back to work! Maby she wont be back next episode, but maby the episode after. Soo, what about that discussion between Castle vs Bones? Are you in?

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