I completely agree with Marie's explanations regarding the ending. (click to show/hide)It may not have been made super clear at what point he may have bailed out of the plane, but I think that is a minor point. And indeed as marie said, he lied about the auto-pilot as he wanted people to believe he is dead, which is also why he no problem with revealing his identity to Gordon (through the story with the coat). I am not sure if Batman or Blake repaired the bat signal...
Thanks Marie, (click to show/hide)it certainly hadn't occurred to me that he could have used the last explosion as cover for bailing out. I think you're right there - that's when he did it.I'm still not 100% convinced by the Alfred bit though, I think if I'd been Alfred I'd react a bit more at seeing Bruce - you know, like a heart attack or something! That's what made me question whether he was in on it or not.On a more general note (and I don't think this needs spoilers), me and a work colleague were debating who was the better villian. He said Bane because he was more of a threat to Batman, both physically and in terms of his ruthlessness and drive. But I argued the Joker was better because he was so unpredictable, Batman couldn't defend against him because he didn't know what he'd do next. What do you all think?
I just came back from watching it. Here my first thoughts without having read the comments in this thread yet. I will do this after posting this. (click to show/hide)I thought the story was too contrived. And there were too many lengths. I knew from the beginning that Miranda will turn out to be a bad guy. Just in the way she was introduced. And Bruce Wayne just trusting her and telling her everything. Though I thought that there will be a twist that Bruce also knew and will trap her somehow. Early on I was thinking that Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character could be Robin. And I was right.Anne Hathaway did a great Catwoman. I think her character was handled well. Bane was okay for the most part, but towards the end he became grading with all his speeches. It didn't help that he couldn't emote with this mask. Very noticable when the camera stayed much too long on his face.The story was too much of a rehash of the first one. Especially sending Bruce Wayne again to such a prison. And having the bad guy threatening the whole city in the way he did.I missed Batman in action. They were too few scenes with him. And when there were some, it was for the most part him being beaten up by Bane.Overall I enjoyed it to some degree. But as of now, not as much as the first two. (click to show/hide)I thought that Joseph Gordon-Levitt -John - would be an ally. I even started to suspect later in the movie that he could be a replacement Batman..but I didn't expect the Robin connection. I didn't feel like it was a rehash..more like a continuation since the League of Shadows wasn't fully eliminated before. And with Ra having a daughter, I think it makes sense that she would try to do what her father couldn't.. She was raised by him and ended up with his...umm..somewhat warped view of things. I thought it felt more like it was coming full circle and fully concluding everything.I didn't mind that Batman wasn't in action as much this time. For one thing, he's older and has tried to put that behind him. Then he needed to go through what he did to finally deal with everything.I really liked Hathaway as Catwoman. It's a good, interesting version of the character.
Some additional notes after having read your comments: (click to show/hide) At the end I not for a second believed that Batman died. I knew for certain, that I will see the Alfred in Florence scene. It has been built up to this. Even though I expected it, I am glad it turned out this way. I was a little surprised that the Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character was called Robin. I would have thought that they would leave it at the hints they left throughout the movie and not explicitly tell so. So I was also surprised that he got to find the Batcave.I was happy that Batman at least gave Gordon a hint so that he knew he was Bruce Wayne. It would have been sad if wouldn't have gotten to know this fact. Especially as so many people got to find out his true identity in the movie. Gordon deserved it most to know.The scene I loved most acting-wise was the one were Alfred teared up telling Bruce that he will leave him. Great powerful scene.
First off, let me say that (click to show/hide)I hate it when the bad guys die before their plan is foiled. Where's the payoff for the viewer to see them realize they've failed?It was an OK movie. I still like the first one the best, even better than TDK.Random remarks about this film: (click to show/hide)Bane beat Batman and Batman then trained where Bane was raised. In the end Bane couldn't beat batman and simply tried to punch him into oblivion, missing more and more hits. Rocky III anyone?I did not see the twist with the child coming. But I didn't care either. Did it make any difference in the end that Bane wasn't the child that climbed up?Friedrich Schiller wrote in his version of William Tell: "Durch diese hohle Gasse muss er kommen." ("He has to come through here."). This isn't Braveheart. These three thousand police officers only armed with hand guns would die by the hundreds in that street if the defenders had actually used their automated weapons. And the falling bodies would have created an additional barrier that would have hindered the cops and given more time to the baddies. It would have ended in a slaughter, not a rumble in the bronx.Torchwood's Owen was the guy who died by exil on ice. The cop who blew up the ridge was Dexter's Quinn. The black guy who tries to execute future Robin was Stargate SG-1's Teal'c (almost didn't recognize that one!).The theme of the leading bad guy not being the actual leader was a repeat from Batman Begins and Ra's Al Ghul's charade.The escape from the prison is merely a plot road block. They have ropes and other stuff. Once you've come this far up surely there is a way to use other items from the prison to help conquer that gap and allow all the prisoners to escape.The Tumbler was a prototype in the first movie whose primary function (to build a bridge across a river) didn't come to fruition according to Fox. Why are there four of them then?I didn't like the final action sequence of the Bat against that nuke truck. Yes, they didn't want to stop the truck, just guide it but it looked bad all the same with hime firing all the time and not stopping that thing.The Bat was incredibly far out at the sea considering the time that was left. It had to accelerate way beyond 500mph to make that distance - rather unlikely considering he barely managed to lift the nuke.
(click to show/hide)I didn't think how far out the Bat went at the end. Maybe it has some sort of turbo boost or something.
(click to show/hide)Bane beat Batman and Batman then trained where Bane was raised. In the end Bane couldn't beat Batman and simply tried to punch him into oblivion, missing more and more hits. Rocky III anyone?
(click to show/hide)The Bat was incredibly far out at the sea considering the time that was left. It had to accelerate way beyond 500mph to make that distance - rather unlikely considering he barely managed to lift the nuke.
(click to show/hide)Distance is deceptive at sea. The horizon is on average only 3 miles away, and the safe distance was only 6 miles. I think the Bat could have made that distance easily enough.
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