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English Grammar 101
« on: March 02, 2008, 07:55:28 PM »
Hi,

I've seen both forms but I am not sure which one is the correct one/more used one.

In the article to the genitive I found "Confucius' teaching" but it's "Bridget Jones's Diary".

What is more common to you

Jones' voice
Jones's voice

?

Thx :)
« Last Edit: April 30, 2008, 02:00:18 PM by DJ Doena »
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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2008, 08:14:08 PM »
Normally, as I remember my English classes, when the item ends with an s, just the “ ' ” is added. If it ends with a letter other than S, the “ 's ” is added.

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2008, 09:33:03 PM »
I've always thought that either one is correct. Actually, I remember Justin Fellowes (writer, Gosford Park) doing a celebrity panel quiz based on grammar and he would regularly rant about some crime against the English language; I'm sure he once said that he hates seeing the "lonely apostrophe" and there was no reason why you shouldn't put the "S" on the end. :2cents:

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2008, 11:41:18 PM »
If the opinion of a french canadian as any value compare to that of a Brit with 2 cents in his pocket  :devil:..........I believe the correct syntax is Jones', I don't think I ever seen the s's syntax.

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2008, 11:50:24 PM »
If the opinion of a french canadian as any value compare to that of a Brit with 2 cents in his pocket  :devil:..........I believe the correct syntax is Jones', I don't think I ever seen the s's syntax.

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2008, 01:53:26 PM »
Yet another question:

It's "a stone", "a house", "an hour", "an eagle".

But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?
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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2008, 03:21:30 PM »
Yet another question:

It's "a stone", "a house", "an hour", "an eagle".

But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?

"a"

"an" is only used if the following word starts with a umlaut. Before you start hitting me on the head, it's "an hour" because the h is silent here...

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2008, 03:26:32 PM »
Yet another question:

It's "a stone", "a house", "an hour", "an eagle".

But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?

"a"

"an" is only used if the following word starts with a umlaut. Before you start hitting me on the head, it's "an hour" because the h is silent here...

Exactly. But what are you saying when you say it: "a(n) Ass-Dee-Card"
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2008, 03:46:15 PM »
Exactly. But what are you saying when you say it: "a(n) Ass-Dee-Card"

Don't know about you, but it sounds more like « Ess » when I usually hear or say it.

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2008, 04:09:21 PM »
But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?

"an" is used before a vowel SOUND even if written as consonant. Thus: an SD card.
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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2008, 04:11:09 PM »
Exactly. But what are you saying when you say it: "a(n) Ass-Dee-Card"

Don't know about you, but it sounds more like « Ess » when I usually hear or say it.

I don't usually hear or say it with english pronunciation. :-\
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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 04:52:15 PM »
But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?

"an" is used before a vowel SOUND even if written as consonant. Thus: an SD card.
Really?

When I posted I simply went by the written style and what I (thought I) knew. :whistle:

Willing to learn new stuff every day though...

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2008, 05:17:49 PM »
Put me down for Bridget Jones' and an SD card.  ;)

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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2008, 05:23:23 PM »
"an" is used before a vowel SOUND even if written as consonant. Thus: an SD card.
Really?

Really. An SD card, but a SCSI controller (scuzzy) and a UFO (you-foe). And despite knowing the rule, I mess it up all the time when writing.
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Re: Genitive s
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2008, 06:38:40 PM »
But is it "a" or "an" "SD-Card"?

"an" is used before a vowel SOUND even if written as consonant. Thus: an SD card.

 :bow:

I'm impressed with your command of the English language.  This is one of my pet peeves and I constantly see it wrong everywhere from the internet all the way up to things in print.  It's gotten to the point lately where I was starting to question my own memory on the rule, so it's nice to see it confirmed. :laugh: