Topic: Bourne Ultimatum

[Touti]

FWIW I highly recommend Bourne Touti (but remember, I suggested 300 to you as well  )

I'm gonna get it at lunch time before the snow starts. Thanks for posting that Rick, now if I don't like it I can blame you for alway recommending bad movies 

[Najemikon]

Sebastien, the Bond franchise is fantastic; look forward to it with confidence! They do rather follow a pattern between good, average and bad. The writers seem to continually hit upon the perfect formula, then get too cocky and misread the audience and produce something silly and bloated. Or they carry on past the actors sell by date! In either case, they blame the actor and make comments about how they need a fresh take. And more often than not, the new actor brings that fresh take and everything's rosy again.

Examples: From Russia With Love/Goldfinger... perfectly balanced Connery era; You Only Live Twice... great fun crowd pleaser; OHMSS... wrong actor (they give Bond's first major emotional storyline away), which Connery realises and comes back, too old, for Diamonds Are Forever. Whoops.

Next, Roger Moore brings a new slant to the magnificent Live and Let Die. His run of films bring more humour and work well. Then someone saw Star Wars, the first major threat to Bond as a franchise, so they logically thought Bond needs to go into space and fight with lasers. Result: Moonraker. Oh dear. Now Moore's too old and eventually gives up after the fun, but tired View to a Kill.

But apparently he was going to do Living Daylights. When Dalton steps in, he's saddled with a jokey script and looks lost. Licence to Kill redresses the balance, but the audience has gone. I think that was a massive missed opportunity. Dalton deserved much better treatment.

In comes another new slant with Goldeneye and Brosnan. Great, except for the music (steel drums for a Bond theme? Pardon?), which is put right in a back-to-basics crowd pleaser Tomorrow Never Dies. Getting a bit sillier in World is not Enough, and the shark is well and truly jumped in Die Another Day. Brosnan shits his bed by daring to criticise it, so even with best pal Tarantino backing him up, he's out. In comes Daniel Craig...

For all the hype, we've been here before. Perfect Bond, perfect film... great sequel (surely), but then, I bet they'll take their eye off the ball and will be relying on more luck than judgement.

So I do like Bond. Really like. But over 40 years, 21 films, 6 actors and god knows how many directors/writers, you get a pretty even balance of absolute gems, fun romps and a handful of turkeys. But he's always Bond, and I'm actually jealous of you seeing them brand new from the start. Here in the UK, he's unavoidable and I've grown up knowing as sure as night follows day, a Bank Holiday will mean Bond on the telly! I never complained though. 

[RossRoy]

and I'm actually jealous of you seeing them brand new from the start.

I will be seeing the movies brand new, but I'm guessing so many scenes have become very much "cliché", so that a lot of it will probably feel very familiar! 


Oh and thanks for that Jon. Makes me look forward to seeing them! 

[lovemunkey187]

and I'm actually jealous of you seeing them brand new from the start.

I will be seeing the movies brand new, but I'm guessing so many scenes have become very much "cliché", so that a lot of it will probably feel very familiar! 


Oh and thanks for that Jon. Makes me look forward to seeing them! 

I agree with Jon, you are very lucky to be able to watch this for the first time.

 
Sorry, it's out of my system now.

You are correct, that an awful lot of the scenes will be familiar because they have either been cliched or parodied into oblivion, but I am sure that you will have a lot of fun watching them.

Are you going to start a thread and give us a running diary on your viewing experience/opinions of the Bond films as you watch them? I'd be interested in your in what you have to say.

[Touti]

I hope you all won't mind me interrupting your Bond discussion to talk about Bourne in my own Bourne thread 

Just kidding 

I watched the movie last night and I loved it.  15 minutes into the movie and I was already glad I broke my 10$ rule.  I'm not a big fan of shaky cam so some of the comments had me a bit worried about this but it wasn't really a problem after all. I find it consistent with the general rythm of the movie and it serves it well, it really didn't make me feel like I was missing something..........except in the scene where

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Bourne fights the "asset" in some apartment in Morocco.  That one bothered me because it is a long scene and the camera is so close and moving so much that you do miss all the fight.  As someone said, you see nothing but a blurr but except for that specific scene I loved it.

[lyonsden5]

FWIW I highly recommend Bourne Touti (but remember, I suggested 300 to you as well  )

I'm gonna get it at lunch time before the snow starts. Thanks for posting that Rick, now if I don't like it I can blame you for alway recommending bad movies 

I watched the movie last night and I loved it. 

[Touti]

One "Made a good recommendation to the admin" point awarded


P.S: I like the "Phew" smiley, I'm gonna add it to the forum

[Najemikon]

I'm glad you enjoyed Bourne Ultimatum, Touti, after all the hype on here! I agree with your spoiler-ed remarks, but I found it flowed better the third time I watched it and I could grasp more detail. I think the whole shaky cam approach gave the movie great confidence.

Anyway, thanks for the interruption, but back to the main topic of discussion now with Bond... Sebastien, continuing what's been said about the parody angle, I notice you have Austin Powers in your collection. Whatever you think of Bond, you must watch that again straight after! I bet you'll see a hundred new things.

[RossRoy]

Sebastien, continuing what's been said about the parody angle, I notice you have Austin Powers in your collection. Whatever you think of Bond, you must watch that again straight after! I bet you'll see a hundred new things.

Oh I plan on it. Austin Powers, then Johnny English, at the very least. 

It might become my february marathon actually.