Topic: Hobbit

[Antares]

How long before LotR did the Hobbit take place?

I'm wondering who would play Bilbo, because Ian Holm is like 100 years old.

Bilbo is pretty much the same age as Frodo was in LotR. There's no way Ian Holm will be able to play him.

[DJ Doena]

How long before LotR did the Hobbit take place?

I'm wondering who would play Bilbo, because Ian Holm is like 100 years old.

Bilbo had the ring for about 60 years IIRC. The day Frodo became 33, Bilbo became 111. 60 years = 51. That is pretty much the same age Frodo had (50) when he travelled to Mount Doom (in the books 17 years are going by between that birthday party and Frodo and Sam actually leaving the Shire).

[Antares]

Bilbo had the ring for about 60 years IIRC. The day Frodo became 33, Bilbo became 111. 60 years = 51. That is pretty much the same age Frodo had (50) when he travelled to Mount Doom (in the books 17 years are going by between that birthday party and Frodo and Sam actually leaving the Shire).

That was one of the things that disturbed me about Jackson's film, how quickly everything took place and how out of sync his story was with Tolkien's narrative.

[Alien Redrum]

Ah, I vaguely remember Bilbo being relatively young in the Hobbit, but I didn't know it was that many years prior to LotR.

[Antares]

Ah, I vaguely remember Bilbo being relatively young in the Hobbit, but I didn't know it was that many years prior to LotR.

In the Fellowship he laments to Gandalf that it has taken him many, many years to write his memoirs.

[DJ Doena]

Here's from the timeline (TA = Third Age, SR = Shire Reckoning, FA = Fourth Age):

2,890 TA    1290 SR    Bilbo Baggins born
2,941 TA    1341 SR    Bilbo gains the One Ring
2,968 TA   1368 SR    Frodo Baggins born
3,001 TA   1401 SR    Gandalf  begins to suspect the One Ring is in the Shire, Bilbo's birthday feast
3,017 TA   1417 SR    Gandalf  reads the scroll in Minas Tirith
3,019 TA   1419 SR    One Ring destroyed
3,021 TA   1421 SR    Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf, Bilbo and Frodo pass over the Sea
3,022 TA = 1 FA

[Dragonfire]

I just found another story speculating on who the new director might be.  I think everyone mentioned as a possibility would be horrible..well except the one mentioned at the very end almost in passing...he could be all right..the others..horrible and shouldn't even be mentioned.  The person who wrote the articles suggest that having at least 2 of these guys considered may be something that would get Peter Jackson back.

If the front runners are really who are mentioned in this article then I feel like the movie is doomed unless Peter Jackson takes over.

http://www.cinematical.com/2010/06/15/could-peter-jackson-return-to-middle-earth-for-the-hobbit/

[Achim]

The suggestion of Neil Marshal gave me a chuckle.

[Dragonfire]

I don't know who he is..lol

I think Alfonso Cuaron could possibly work.  But Brett Ratner??  No way in hell.  Same for the the Wedding Crashers director and David Yates.  I don't like a lot of what he's done to the last two Potter movies.  I've still enjoyed the movies, but he's screwed up so much.  I honestly don't see how some important things will work in the final Potter movies because of how he's cut so much stuff.

[Achim]

I don't know who he is..lol

He made:

Dog Soldiers
The Descent
Doomsday
Centurion

[Dragonfire]

I haven't seen any of them...I've heard of The Descent and Doomsday though. 

I guess I just have a lot of...concerns about just about everyone I've heard as a potential director since Del Torro had to drop out.  I don't want to see The Hobbit screwed up.

[lovemunkey187]

I really like the thought of Neil Marshall doing it and I would be very eager to see Hobbitses instead of being in the frame of mind of there not being anything else on that I want to watch, then I'll sit through it.

Marie you need to sort yourself out and watch the four films that Achim mentioned.

[Achim]

I guess I just have a lot of...concerns about just about everyone I've heard as a potential director since Del Torro had to drop out.  I don't want to see The Hobbit screwed up.

I don't think Marshal's mention was entirely serious. I don't actually know the book, is it that much more violent than LOTR? Marshal is quite known for using blood and gore by the bucket, which may not be what Jackson, who is quite familiar with buckets of blood himself, is looking for for this mainly mainstream film.

Marie you need to sort yourself out and watch the four films that Achim mentioned.

While I agree I would like to point out that they are all either rather violent/gory (Dog Soldiers, Doomsday, Centurion) or scary (The Descent). they certainly do come recommended by me (o.k., maybe Doomsday not as much ).

[Dragonfire]

It has been a long time since I read The Hobbit.  I don't remember much in the way of violence.  I think there were a few fights..but nothing that would call for buckets of blood.

[lyonsden5]

A new name has popped up I see.

Neill Blomkamp.
link 2.

I enjoyed District 9. Not so much the story (it was pretty predictable) but the way it was presented was different. This could be a good fit I think.