Topic: Just an idea

[snowcat]

HAHAH! Jimmy, ill add it to the next poll :p just remind me!

[Najemikon]

I didn't have any issues with the camera work in Cloverfield.  Didn't care for it, but it didn't cause me problems.  I just thought it wasn't a good movie.  I think it's the amateur style to it.  Saw it again recently with my son and still didn't like it.

I bloody loved it! But couldn't pick between it and The Host...

[snowcat]

Jon I love Cloverfield and The Host ;p infact... I love The Host more... actually maybe not

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I wasn't really happy with the ending of The Host, my daughter is dead so im gonna adopt this random kid

but then again

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I wasn't happy with the ending of Cloverfield.... What the hell? stupid film! dont kill everyone off!

[Jimmy]

HAHAH! Jimmy, ill add it to the next poll :p just remind me!

It's even available on dvd. It's oop, but the price for a copy at Amazon marketplace aren't too high. I will probably ordered it in march, it's not often that I found something that sound so insane and fun at the same time

[snowcat]

  As soon as my hours pick back up at work! im buying that

[Najemikon]

Jon I love Cloverfield and The Host ;p infact... I love The Host more... actually maybe not

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I wasn't really happy with the ending of The Host, my daughter is dead so im gonna adopt this random kid

but then again

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I wasn't happy with the ending of Cloverfield.... What the hell? stupid film! dont kill everyone off!

Oooh, controversial! 

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The best horrors are nihilistic and therefore should end on a downer. The Host was a metaphor about family, so is exempt, but Cloverfield wouldn't have made any sense if it wasn't an all powerful creature... that said, The Mist took a similar situation and ended in a different, yet even more devastating way.

[Jimmy]

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I wasn't happy with the ending of Cloverfield.... What the hell? stupid film! dont kill everyone off!

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This type of horror movie is much effective when everyone died in it and this one wouldn't have made sense if one of the group members would survived. It's the same pattern that was used more effectivelly in Cannibal Holocaust years ago or, in a less effective way, in Blair Witch Project. The feel good ending is one of the thing I don't like in horror movie (it's the reason why I dislike The Myst), a lot of classics like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Night of the Living Dead don't have the FGE and works because of this.

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The Mist took a similar situation and ended in a different, yet even more devastating way.

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We won't agree with this one, since for me the feel good ending ruined the film. Yes, compare to the novel it's an happy ending there are no hope in the book end.

It's always funny to quote a spoiler tag with another one

[Najemikon]

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I wasn't happy with the ending of Cloverfield.... What the hell? stupid film! dont kill everyone off!

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This type of horror movie is much effective when everyone died in it and this one wouldn't have made sense if one of the group members would survived. It's the same pattern that was used more effectivelly in Cannibal Holocaust years ago or, in a less effective way, in Blair Witch Project. The feel good ending is one of the thing I don't like in horror movie (it's the reason why I dislike The Myst), a lot of classics like Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Night of the Living Dead don't have the FGE and works because of this.

It's always funny to quote a spoiler tag with another one

 

But, you've said this before. And I still don't get it. 

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The Mist took a similar situation and ended in a different, yet even more devastating way.

We won't agree with this one, since for me the feel good ending ruined the film. Yes, compare to the novel it's an happy ending there are no hope in the book end.

But I have compared with the novels ending, so did Darabont and so did King (see Achim's summary here: http://www.dvdcollectorsonline.com/index.php/topic,5206.msg86757.html#msg86757).

The films ending is incredibly dark, because the narratives emotional focus is on David, so the viewer should feel his pain acutely. What he did was horrendous! At what point could you possibly think of it as "happy"? So what if the world survived? David has no hope and now lives in a deep and dark place.

You're clearly nuts! 

[Jimmy]

But, you've said this before. And I still don't get it.  

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The fact is there is hope and the invasion will be defeated in the film. In the book there is no hope, no army to save the world and no real ending in the usual way (the story end and we don't even know if David will survive, of course he won't since eveyone is doomed from the start). The fact that Stephen King prefer the film ending is not relevent and like I've said in the past the oppinion from the guy who had directed Maximum Overdrive doesn't sound like a big seal of approval to me.

[Najemikon]

But, you've said this before. And I still don't get it. 

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The fact is there is hope and the invasion will be defeated in the film. In the book there is no hope, no army to save the world and no real ending in the usual way (the story end and we don't even know if David will survive, of course he won't since eveyone is doomed from the start). The fact that Stephen King prefer the film ending is not relevent and like I've said in the past the oppinion from the guy who had directed Maximum Overdrive doesn't sound like a big seal of approval to me.

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The book tends to put the reader within its world so the ending makes sense to have the army defeated. The effect is as if there is a last, unprinted line that says, directly to the reader, "You are doomed! When you close this book, you're still doomed!". The film is a detached observation, where we are following the single character and observing his journey. It doesn't matter what the rest of the world is doing, because we aren't in it.

I do understand what you mean though, but by calling it a happy ending, you are obviously not remotely interested in the poor sod David. But the film is.

I like that it is different at least, but still has integrity. While you may not like the ending, at least it isn't contrived; it's simply a possible alternative. Isn't that better than slavishly copying the book word-for-word? It would be boring, as so many adaptations are. It's written for the screen, again, unlike most, including Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter.

There's me! Can marked "Worms" in one hand, tin opener in the other...

[Achim]

 

The Mist? Happy Ending? Not! Jon already said anything that's needed to be said. While I also wished at the time that they had gone for the original ending, I see what they "required" to do (again, see Jon's explanation).



I liked Cloverfield. Well, I still do. Anyway, the best thing it has going for it is the monster design. When we get to see this immensely awkward creature it's just breathtaking and we wished, in the cinema, we could freeze-frame the damn thing. As for the ending: I see how they could have gone out it with

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a "happier" ending (couple escapes, monster survives)

but also see why they anded the way they did.

[snowcat]

In typical brtish fashion or to quote Harry Hill (and im sure nobody will get this)

I like The Host.... But I Like Cloverfield too.... But Which ones better? There's only one way to find out! FIGHHHHHT!!!

[lovemunkey187]

In typical brtish fashion or to quote Harry Hill (and im sure nobody will get this)

I like The Host.... But I Like Cloverfield too.... But Which ones better? There's only one way to find out! FIGHHHHHT!!!

Host anyday of the week.

[Najemikon]

In typical brtish fashion or to quote Harry Hill (and im sure nobody will get this)

I like The Host.... But I Like Cloverfield too.... But Which ones better? There's only one way to find out! FIGHHHHHT!!!

 

I love TV Burp, but it tends to lose me when it gets too silly, like the fights. BUT, it's still bloody funny when used like this!

Did you make the pic yourself or has this been discussed elsewhere?  Or even! Is there a TV Burp Make-Your-Own-Fight tool I don't know about? 

[snowcat]

:p I love TV Burp too... the time it starts is when my brother finishes work... I actually have to pause it until he gets home!!

I made it myself on Photoshop, lol... and I can now use those arms as a template for any fight :p