Topic: Any Must-See Movies 2010 for you?

[goodguy]

YOU could go on a rant?

I did enjoy Twilight, but it is nowhere near as good as Harry Potter on any level.

I haven't read the Meyer or the Rowling books nor will I ever. I have seen the first Twilight movie and the first two Potters. Twilight I did enjoy despite its obvious flaws, the Potters I most certainly didn't.

[Critter]

Ah I see, fair enough. There really is no need for a debate here. I am very passionate about the subject and have read all 7 Potter books (some 5 or 6 times each) and all 4 Twilight books (the first one twice).

I have also seen all films from both sides multiple times. When it comes down to it I have many reasons for hating Twilight to the almost insane amount that I do, and as a Harry Potter fan (mainly books, although I don't mind some of the films) you can understand how the comparisons would annoy me.

If you haven't read the books from both sides it would be impossible to truley understand my viewpoints here. And while I personally hate Twilight I still can't stand it if people say that Twilight is crap if they haven't seen or read it... which is why I did both.

[Jimmy]

Sophie I'm sure you will appreciate this. For me this is enough to get the idea that I ain't the target for this, but you are supposed to be (at least I think ).

[Critter]

Haha I suppose I am 'supposed' to be the target audience but it certainly didn't have that effect with my personally. I think the films and books are really most popular with young girls around 11-13, and and for some unknown reason older women in around their 40's.

That link was pretty funny, I haven't read any angry booth before but he seemed to hit the mark right with this recap. I especially loved the captions under each of the images  .

Also this is very true, and one of the many, many things that bugs me about the series.

And on top of the vampires who aren’t actually vampires, this movie (as well as the book it’s based on) now gives us werewolves who aren’t really werewolves. In most other movies, werewolves change at the first sign of the full moon; the werewolves of New Moon mostly change when someone shoves them really hard.

[Dragonfire]

I've read all the Potter books more than once and seen all the movies several times. 
I've read the Twilight books and seen the first movie so far..I'll watch the second one, I just haven't yet.

The books are mostly entertaining, though I didn't like them anywhere as much as the Potter books.  Bella annoys me too much for that.  I did enjoy the first movie overall, though it has a lot of problems.  Again, even with what I see as problems in the Potter movies, I like them much more.

I have yet to get why so many women and girls have gone all ga ga over the books and the movies.  Last year I had the misfortune of having of sitting next to 2 giggly teenage girls - in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince actually - who freaked out and went into some kind of....fit when the New Moon trailer started.  I think one of them was hyperventilating at the sight of Jacob.  I just don't get that sort of...reaction.

[Critter]

I have yet to get why so many women and girls have gone all ga ga over the books and the movies.  Last year I had the misfortune of having of sitting next to 2 giggly teenage girls - in Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince actually - who freaked out and went into some kind of....fit when the New Moon trailer started.  I think one of them was hyperventilating at the sight of Jacob.  I just don't get that sort of...reaction.

That's becuase Twilight fans are predominatly young stupid girls, made even more stupid by reading the books (which unfortunatly kills brain cells). They can thankfully be replenished by reading good books again after, but the crazy Twilight fans do not believe that any other book exists except for the Twilight series. They read them over and over, and in the end they end up as crazy as this.

NOTE: This video is real, many have speculated this girl is not actually serious, it has been a long time and well... she is. This is just one of thousands of crazy Twilight fans.

[Dragonfire]

That is ....  well.  I don't know what to say to that.

[goodguy]

But the hype surrounding Potter is much the same, that's why I teased you about it in connection with Twilight in the first place.

Edit: Can't watch your video at the moment as I'm supposed to be working.

[Jimmy]

Good lord thanks I don't have a teenager daughter to shame me like this
Did she realized that it will be there forever to be laugh at (not in the you're ao funny way)?
I was waiting for a heart attack, so it's a deception...

I've seen pictures of the wolf-wolf not the dog-wolf and it isn't nothing to go batshit insane for

I suppose she was as excited 3 years ago for High School Musical
Insane teenage girls are so funny

[Critter]

But the hype surrounding Potter is much the same, that's why I teased you about it in connection with Twilight in the first place.

Edit: Can't watch your video at the moment as I'm supposed to be working.

The hype may be quite large for both candidates but I would never call it "much the same". The Twilight hype is predominatly squeling teenage girls who only like the story becuase of the supposedly hot characters. This is proably one of the reasons I hate it so, it gives all teenage girls the impression of being mindless idiots.

Also the Potter hype is different, Potter fans literally come in all shapes and sizes, all ages, and from all over the world. And they usually have a higher understanding of what literature actually is than your average Twilight fan. When you think Twilight fans you think young girls, when I think of Harry Potter fans, I think of everyone from 10 year old kids to 80 year old people in nursing homes, and everything in between. I just had a 82 year old neigbour die who lived alone, and was a huge Harry Potter fan. She spent a lot of time in the last legs of her life just pouring over those books.

I also knew many teachers at my high school who were respected fans of literature, such as my English and Lit teachers. They would often bee seen reading Harry Potter books in class while the class had a test. These people would NEVER even admit to reading a Twilight book as it would instantly lower the respect most people hold for them.

God now I have gone on a tangent again. All this to try and explain how I don't think the hype is similar. I did warn you about me and Twilight, it's like water and oil.

EDIT: Jimmys above post just proved my whole point about Twilight excellently. It has given teenage girls worldwide a bad reputation. Which is horrible for us non insane ones who don't start squealing just because some idiot who can't even act takes his shirt off in a film.

[goodguy]

While we're on tangents: If you take a look at www.fanfiction.net, the 2 most popular categories are Harry Potter and Twilight. There are about 450,000 entries for Potter, the first one from 1999. There are about 150,000 entries for Twilight, starting 2003. In both cases, the "sqeeling girls" categories Angst and Romance make about 70% of the stories.

[Critter]

I'm aware of how much fan fiction there is, and even more surprisingly I have actually read a fair bit of Twilight fan fiction. Why you ask? Becuase unlike Harry Potter, almost 70% of Twilight fan fiction is actually better than the real thing. 
It's funny how people who aren't actually authors can use basic grammar and storytelling functions better than an author who has sold millions of books worldwide for idiotic reasons.

[snowcat]

I love how fast these Twilight films are being churned out.... I guess its fear of either

A. Loss of fan base
or
B. characters looking older and "not as hot"

[goodguy]

Becuase unlike Harry Potter, almost 70% of Twilight fan fiction is actually better than the real thing. 

Now you're replying to hard facts with something you pulled out of ... somewhere. From my experience, less than 10% of the stories in any fanfiction 'verse qualify as readable. And while that number is equally fictional, at least it is backed up by Sturgeon's Law.

[Critter]

Haha okay you caught me, I made up a percentage. But if it means anything I based it roughly on the amount of fan fiction I have read personally (so yeah, doesn't mean much). What I'm basically trying to say is that when a bunch of amateurs can write stories (that aren't that good to begin with) but are actually better than the real thing. Well... it makes me worry for the entire human race.