Topic: DVD Profiler 3.6.0 Beta is available

[goodguy]

Are others than Warner using the Digibook? All I have seem to be from them.

After staring at my collection for a while, I found one. It is part of Sony's so-called "Award Winner Collection" (just search Amazon.de for that term to get some examples). I hate that packaging and always thought of it as a digipak where the distributor was too cheap to put it in a slipcase.

[Achim]

After staring at my collection for a while, I found one. It is part of Sony's so-called "Award Winner Collection" (just search Amazon.de for that term to get some examples). I hate that packaging and always thought of it as a digipak where the distributor was too cheap to put it in a slipcase.

Oh, that's indeed the same.

Personally I like it, albeit looking a bit odd between the keepers on the shelf. Since Warner was using it for some of their classics it felt a bit special at first.

[Achim]

Maybe it was discussed in the Invelos forum and I missed it and don't feel like asking stupid questions over there (so I do it here ):

I happily installed Matthias PCP today and had to find this:

Audio seems to be always flagged as a change, even if there is no actual change in the data...?

This is by no means a problem with Matthias' tool. RHo's skin and Ken's default also show this behaviour. So far it seems to be a fairly obvious bug that got sneaked even into the maintenance release 3.6.1...?

[Tom]

Audio seems to be always flagged as a change, even if there is no actual change in the data...?

This is by no means a problem with Matthias' tool. RHo's skin and Ken's default also show this behaviour. So far it seems to be a fairly obvious bug that got sneaked even into the maintenance release 3.6.1...?

For me audio is not always flagged as changed, only if there is actual change. I am using 3.6 and Rho's skin.

[addicted2dvd]

works as expected on my side too.

[goodguy]

Audio seems to be always flagged as a change, even if there is no actual change in the data...?

Yeah, I have the same problem. It goes away when you manually change the audio section of the profile.

As to why some people have the problem and some don't: It probably depends on how many database upgrades you did during the beta cycle. I went straight from 3.5.1 to 3.6.0.1282 without any beta steps.

As for PCP: I pondered to suppress it, but decided against it, because the checkbox in the "Accept Partial" pane is still flagged. If there is a flag, but PCP doesn't show the section, people would have wondered why.

So far it seems to be a fairly obvious bug that got sneaked even into the maintenance release 3.6.1...?

I'm not exactly sure, but I believe it was already there in 3.6.0. At least there was no DB conversion between 3.6.0 and 3.6.1.

[Achim]

As to why some people have the problem and some don't: It probably depends on how many database upgrades you did during the beta cycle. I went straight from 3.5.1 to 3.6.0.1282 without any beta steps.

This seems a good explanation. I also did not participate in beta this time and only installed the release candidate (which was ultimately the release version anyway). So since we have the problem and Pete and Tom used the beta it seems a reasonable conclusion.


So you say I must change/save the files manually once? Or can I just accept the update and everything will be fine afterwards? ... More a rhethorical question, I can just test this out myself tonight.

[goodguy]

So you say I must change/save the files manually once? Or can I just accept the update and everything will be fine afterwards? ... More a rhethorical question, I can just test this out myself tonight.

It only goes away once there was a real change to the audio section. Simply accepting an update doesn't help, if it doesn't cause any real change.

However, I wouldn't bother with it. Once you accept or decline an update, the "update available" flag gets cleared until there is a newer version of the profile available in the online DB. That means if you do a direct comparison from the profile, the audio section may still be flagged as different, but the profile is no longer listed among the pending updates.

[Achim]

Thanks for explaining Matthias. I certainly won't go through near-2000 profiles and save them just so this flag goes away

Your tool comes in handy here, as, other than with "just" using a skin, it highlights an actual change. So no squinting required to find of it's a real change or just the flag-problem

[Tom]

With my main database I went directly to 3.6 final. The beta I only used in parallel mode and I did not use the release candidates at all (since parallel mode was disabled).

[goodguy]

Well, I'm finally done with updating all my gadgets to v3.6 (I started after the official release and didn't play with the Beta). While there are some nice new features, I'm disappointed by the new Plugin API. It is still not possible to modify all profile data via the API. Also, I was looking forward to the performance improvement given by SaveDVDToCollectionPartial(), but as it turns out, it cannot be used for changes to Notes or Events, they still require a time-consuming full save of the profile.

[MEJHarrison]

That's the downside of not taking part in the beta.  This was one of the few times when Ken was very accommodating.  I made many requests during the beta that made it into the API.

[goodguy]

That's the downside of not taking part in the beta.  This was one of the few times when Ken was very accommodating.  I made many requests during the beta that made it into the API.

Such as access to custom crew roles? Seriously, it took me about 10 minutes looking at both the CS and the PAS file to spot a couple of omissions and inconsistencies. That doesn't require any Beta testing, and it's this kind of sloppiness that just bothers me.

Still, "disappointed" might be to strong a word. The new SetDisplayedProfileIDs() function is quite cool for custom filtering by plugins and makes up for some of the missing stuff.

[MEJHarrison]

Oh, the plugin API is pure crap.  I won't defend it.  I'm just saying had you been around during the beta you might have had a better chance of getting some things fixed.  I got several requests addressed.

Mediadogg is in the same boat.  Sounds like he didn't start coding until the beta was done.  Now he's finding all kinds of issues that aren't likely to be fixed since it would probably require a new release of the program.

[Kathy]

There are advantages of being computer illiterate...you don't know if something is crap or not!